123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843

[uk2003]

Hi Bernard

Couple of sites to look at, which may answer your question

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=448&documentID=3812&pageNumber=4

http://www.manchester-family-history-research.co.uk/new_page_5.htm

Ken

[kooky]

Thanks for the second site Ken! Lots of gory reading there!!

I may now be able to find a birth date for my great aunt Kathleen Boshell,[known as Kit] who died 28th Dec.1927 at 123, Crescent Road. She was a nursing sister, and 'lived in' at Holland Road.

She was only 42 and unmarried. I have been unable to find her birth in Dublin circa 1885. She is in the 1911 Dublin census as Kate, aged 26.

[There is another thread about this on the Dublin page. Sorry I don't know how to link them, probably not necessary here!]

Kooky

[hilarybelton]

Just to add...
Death certificate arrived this morning, date 1966, address 223 Crescent Road, Crumpsall.  Not 123!

There seems to be a lot of confusion as the modern North Manchester Hosp is off Delauneys Road, but the old Springfield Hospital, previously Park Hospital, Previously Crumpsall Workhouse, was on Crescent Road. Different sites completely. My relative's cause of death suggests that she was in a hospital, or a geriatric nursing hospital, at the time.

Just the address at 223, not 123, is intriguing!

Hilary

[hilarybelton]

Found this on the Workhouse website

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Manchester/Manchester.shtml

123 was the workhouse:

"From 1904, to protect them from disadvantage in later life, the birth certificates for those born in the workhouse gave its address just as 123 (later 223) Crescent Road, Crumpsall."

Also on another site, a lady who was a nurse at 223 Crescent Road, the old Crumpsall Hospital. Although the hospital was combined with the others to become the North Manchester, it is not on the same site as the present day North Manchester Hospital on Delaunies Road (though most of you had worked this out already, of course!)

[Viktoria]

I worked at Crumpsall Hospital  in the  late  1950`s and just a  few years or so ago had to go with my husband there, only now it is called North Manchester .It is the same building on the same site as in the 1950`s.There were  lots of other buildings as well, The Geriatric Hospital Springfield, the Psychiatric wards which were seperate and then the old workhouse site. The mortuary was just opposite he main entrance, on the other side of the road going through the site. Matron`s office was just to the left of the main entrance. Al built of the same stripey brick with lots of little tower or turrets on the corners .Has it been altered since we were there last?Viktoria.

[hilarybelton]

Thanks, Viktoria. I've been looking at it on Google Earth, the new North Manchester Hospital is off Delauneys, the Crescent Road site appears to be a school - I can see netball courts etc! I might have a drive up there next week.

I was wondering whether, in 1966 when my relative died age 85, 223 Crescent Road was a geriatric hospital? She had always lived in Salford, and we can't really understand how she ended up in Crumpsall!

Best wishes, Hilary

[emmsthheight]

Hi

Kelly's 1953/4 has no 123 Crescent Road, goes from111, Major, Wm, to Crumpsall Crescent, to St Anne's (R C) church, to St Anne's (R C0 school, and Presbytery, to Crescent Avenue, to 147 Frank Roberts.

But 223 has:

223 Springfield Hospital ( Springfield & Swinton Hospital Management Committee)

223 Crumpsall Hospital (North Manchester Management Committee)

       Farrar, Alfrd, pig breeder (Clarkesville)

      Hebrew Old Congregational Burial Ground!

Then it turns round and goes down the other side of the road.

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

PS

Also, by then, 72 Delaunay's Road has:

(Jumps from 62, across Birch Road, to:

72 Crumpsall Hospital Park House (H Ellis master).

Good night

Emms

[hilarybelton]

Thanks, Emms.

I think that clears things up for me. We'll never know why she ended up in Crumpsall and we'll have to assume that she was taken there simply because there was a bed available at the time. But it does seem that it was a hospital that would cater more specifically for an elderly lady who was terminally ill, so perhaps it was a good move for her.

Thankyou to everyone on the thread!
Hilary