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Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #54 on: Monday 29 June 09 22:18 BST (UK) »
Yes they did and although   Queen Victoria (no relation!)had anaesthetic for one confinement I`m not sure of the date and in any case the lower classes would probably not have it even for operations, so the restraints could have been for amputations etc. It served me right because it was not allowed to enter or leave the building via the turret doors but I`d have had to wait about 55 mins for the next bus on Delauneys Road to where I lived and it was winter and my son was only 18 months old and with his grandma whilst I did  afternoon shifts on the prem baby unit.I wanted to get home to him.I never understood why those doors were open at all.I wonder how long the equipment had been abandoned down there.Cheerio Viktoria.

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Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #55 on: Friday 24 July 09 21:20 BST (UK) »
My wife's grt granddad's place of death was also given as no 123 in Dec 1931.
This address didn't  mean anything to us so I looked it up in the nearest Kelly's I could find (1927).
 The odd numbered houses fade out after no 121 but there are various un-numbered buildings beyond that.
The next building past 121 was described as "Manchester Poor Law Institution (The Lodge)". With the abolition of the Poor Laws in 1930 no doubt it's use changed after that.
Incidentally, the informant was given as J O Schofield, occupier. Anyone else come across him?

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Re: 123 Crescent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #56 on: Friday 31 July 09 10:59 BST (UK) »
I have just seen this post and hope I can add some value.

My credentials for doing so are as follows, I was born in 1953 in Crumpsall Hospital, my eldest son was laos born there in 1979. My mother sadly died in Springfield Hospital and I lived ( Birch Road ) and worked around all that area in the 70's and early 80's.

As previously stated , what is now North Manchester General Hospital is an amalgam of 3 Hospitals on the same site. Springfield Hospital ( which was a mental instituition and earlier the workhouse ) Delauneys Hospital ( geriatric ) and Crumpsall Hospital ( A&E, maternity, general ) The whole site is loosely linked with various other buildings of different ages although the bulk of it is Victorian.

It is bounded by Delauneys Road on the North and east and Crescent Road on the south and west. It used to be possible to drive from Delauneys road up into the various Hospitals and then exit on a drive to Crescent road.

There was I believe a lodge at the bottom of the drive at the Crescent road Junction which was previously the workhouse Masters residence and would have later become the address used in the subject of this post ( 123 Crescent Road ) It was alittle isolated and a small field was adjacent  before coming to the aforementioned farm, Clarkesville ( which we knew as Farrar's Farm. this had a small drive leading up to the Jewish cemetery adajacent to Springfield Hospital.

I would think that the main Hospital used the 72 delauneys road address as its "clearing house " as it too had a similar lodge building at the entrance just down from Birch Road.

If there is any other explanations I can possibly help with, let me know.

The Policeman who was killed was not on Delauneys road, but Crumpsall Lane.
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Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 28 January 10 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ted, I think that the fact that "my" certificate is as recent as 1966 complicated the issue slightly as hospitals are for ever evolving and, whilst 223, the Crescent Road site, might not have been a geriatric hospital in earlier years, it might have been so in 1966.

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Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 28 January 10 13:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Hilary, Ted, All.

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Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 11 February 12 14:00 GMT (UK) »
 ???new to this website but would just like to add my twopenneth to the comments made on the subject of 123 Crescent Rd. although its a little late.  Following up my family tree I came across my paternal grandfathers death cert. with the place of death as Crescent Rd.  as he lived in Gorton it
puzzled me and I thought maybe he was visiting a friend and died there, but no it appears it is the old poorhouse or known as the workhouse.  I visited the site only to find a large Catholic church is now standing on the site.  He apparently died of cancer and maybe at the time of his death (1943) i can only presume they were so poor that is were he ended up. My father (his son) did not know about this and his other two sons were away in the armed services at the time.  It did not have the name of the workhouse on the death cert. just the address.  The Crumpsall hospital was on Delaughneys road where most of the babies were born.  My mother knew that hospital well as she lost two babies in there
and used to say how bad it was in the l930's.

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Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #60 on: Sunday 12 February 12 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi rosema

Welcome to rootschat  ;)

123 Crescent Road was the address from 1904 of Crumpsall hospital, but was the Poor/workhouse from 1855.

With the exception of the Prestwich Union Workhouse which was next door all of the workhouse buildings are still intact, so not sure what you mean by Catholic Church unless you have a different address on the death cert, my own grandfather was recorded as dying at 123 Crescent Road in 1942 
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Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #61 on: Sunday 12 February 12 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mancsman, thanks for the post.  Just wanted to say I had been to Crescent Road searching for l23
as this address was on my grandfathers death cert.  As you turn into the road on the left is where l23 (the building referred to on the cert.once stood).  I checked all the numbers on the road and this is the site where l23 stood.  A catholic church now stands on the site.  I do not know when this was built but I did ask one or two people living there about the previous building that was there, but obviously they were fairly new to the area.  On my grandfather's death cert. (dated 13th May 1943 it just gives the cause of death and the address as 123 Crescent Road Crumpsall, and as I mentioned because he lived at Vernon Street Gorton, I had to investigate why this was where he died.  I first thought he might have been visiting a friend in Crumpsall and died there (that was before I was shocked to learn of the poorhouse/workhouse ethic.  He was a retired plumbing engineer and also a lay-preacher in the church so I am still in the dark about the origins of his placement there. 

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Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« Reply #62 on: Sunday 12 February 12 20:00 GMT (UK) »
No it is not the Church but I see why you thought that

With new homes being built the numbers moved, 123 became 223 in the end

Have a read of this

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Manchester/
Harris - Millington - Hilton - Capper - Smith - Jones