350 graves to be exhumed

[Lodger]

Forfarian,
I think I sent you the old certificates I had from Airdrie? I'm sure there were Waddells in the bundle somewhere?

As for the 3 burial grounds of Airdrie burgh, only one survives, in part, that is the Wellwynd. There is a marker stone still in place that reads - "The burying place of John Waddel, Airdrie Toll, his wife & children 1800".
Not sure where the toll was in Airdrie but it may well have been out at what we used to call the "Caur Terminus", the crossroads at the A72 and the Clarkson Road. It is now the Terminus roundabout. On the other hand, it may have been at the Glenmavis road-end on the A72. There is only one stone in Wellwynd with "Black". Walter Black & 1831 - 1891 and his wife Helen Brown died 1901 aged 66 years.
There were 3 Waddell stones in the Chapel Street churchyard. James Waddell esquire of Stonefield. Robert Waddle & Barbara Hamilton. James Watt & Agnes Waddell, a marker stone from 1844.
No Waddell stones at Broomknoll churchyard.

Lodger

[Forfarian]

Forfarian,
I think I sent you the old certificates I had from Airdrie? I'm sure there were Waddells in the bundle somewhere?

You did, thank you, and there were. Those ones were in Clarkston cemetery

As for the 3 burial grounds of Airdrie burgh, only one survives, in part, that is the Wellwynd. There is a marker stone still in place that reads - "The burying place of John Waddel, Airdrie Toll, his wife & children 1800".
Not sure where the toll was in Airdrie but it may well have been out at what we used to call the "Caur Terminus", the crossroads at the A72 and the Clarkson Road. It is now the Terminus roundabout. On the other hand, it may have been at the Glenmavis road-end on the A72. There is only one stone in Wellwynd with "Black". Walter Black & 1831 - 1891 and his wife Helen Brown died 1901 aged 66 years.
There were 3 Waddell stones in the Chapel Street churchyard. James Waddell esquire of Stonefield. Robert Waddle & Barbara Hamilton. James Watt & Agnes Waddell, a marker stone from 1844.
No Waddell stones at Broomknoll churchyard.

Thanks for those. I know about the Waddells of Stonefield. Have also come across the one at Airdrie Toll, but I don't know who his parents were. Likewise Robert Waddell, married to Barbara Hamilton, and Agnes Waddell, married to James Watt.

[Finley 1]

an interesting thread....

i noticed a mention of the name Finnie..... i have Ann finnie in my tree
married to Robert Sutherland she was from Airdrie born 1833.

xin

[apanderson]

Forfarian - further to the info which Lodger posted ....

As you know, many old stones just had one or two sets of initials, so I has a wee look in the 'Churchyards of Airdrie' booklet and found the following:

Chapel Street:

J B, 1840
J B   A J H
J B   A B, 1799
JW   GW, 1845
JW   MK,  18(38)
JW   MR,  1842

Wellwynd:

JB    A L
WW   TW, 1807 (Wall Plaque)
MW   RC,  1792 (Wall Plaque)

Usually these are the initials of the husband and wife, but unless the two sets matched with known info - then it's really guessing game.

The dates could represent unpteen things too - unless again, the year just happened to match a year of death or if you had details of when a lair was purchased. 

Anne

[Forfarian]

Thanks, Anne. Not sure I can match them up, but I'll see what I can turn up.

TW - T is quite an unusual first initial for a female.

[apanderson]

Yes, it is!

Mind you, it might not actually be a 'T' - it might have been an 'I'.

Who knows! 

Anne

[icox67]

Specific reply to Max39: Came across this post by chance. I have un covered other info which may be of interest re: Adam Prentice: see below.

Adam Prentice (b. 1805)
On 15th January 1850, an Adam Prentice was convicted at Glasgow Court of Justiciary, and transported to Western Australia for a term of 10 years. The crime committed is not listed.  His registration number was 2682. The record provides the following details:

Age:      46 (thought to be age at time of departure, although could be age at the time of the court appearance, which would be more likely to be “our” ancestor).
Height:       5' 11 1/2"
Face:         round
Complexion:    fair
Build:       Stout
Hair:       sandy       
Eyes:       grey
Marks:      Burn on breast; two moles on neck
Status:      Married with 3 children
Occupation:   Stone Mason            
Adam was one of 304 prisoners that arrived in Fremantle, WA in 1854, aboard the Sea Park.

An Adam Prentice and Margaret Rennie married in Barony on 18th May 1828 (my ancestor would have been almost 23 years old).  No other Adam Prentice’s were married in any parish of Scotland before 1844, which would place their ages as 39 years or older, and makes it likely that it was “our” Adam that married Margaret Rennie. 

Together Adam Prentice and Margaret Rennie had three children: Alexander (b. 28/12/1828), Mary (b. 27/12/1830) and Margaret (b. 17/3/1833).  The Adam Prentice that was transported was also married with three children.

Hope this maybe helps.

[tidybooks]

Hi,

On National Archives of Scotland site ref JC26/1850/291, it quotes "Trial papers relating to Euphemia Muir, Jean Prentice, Adam Prentice for the crime of theft and previous conviction. Tried at High Court, Glasgow" on 15 January 1850.
The verdicts were :- Euphemia Muir, married, Verdict: Guilty, Sentence: Transportation - 14 years
Jean Prentice, wife of Adam Prentice, mason (co-accused), m.s. Jack, Verdict: Guilty, Verdict Comments: Guilty - second charge, Sentence: Transportation - 7 years. Note: The first charge was not proven.
Adam Prentice, married, Verdict: Guilty, Sentence: Transportation - 10 years
 
Tom
 
 
 
 
 
 

[Maggie1895]

   Forfarian - further to the info which Lodger posted ....

As you know, many old stones just had one or two sets of initials, so I has a wee look in the 'Churchyards of Airdrie' booklet and found the following:

Wellwynd:
JB    A L
WW   TW, 1807 (Wall Plaque)
MW   RC,  1792 (Wall Plaque)

Anne

Anne, I don't want to waste your time because I'm pretty sure I'm at a dead end, but I'd not heard of the 'Churchyards of Aidrie' booklet before your posting.

The next time you have a reason to look in it, could you possibly just check if there is any TP entered between 1849 and 1851?   Thomas Porter must have been alive until at least the early part of 1849 as his second son, also Thomas, was born in 1850.   By the 1851 census Thomas snr was dead.
Young Thomas followed his father to the grave in 1857 and was definitely buried in Wellwynd and as they still lived in Aitcheson Street I would have assume his father would have been buried there as well.
I've accepted logically that they, and several others in the family, must have been pauper's graves and are probably caught up in the 350 that have been moved, but you know what it's like with a really frustrating dead end, you clutch at any possible straws.
Thank you in advance if you manage to remember next time you open the book,
Maggie