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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 30 March 10 22:28 BST (UK) »
Lodger,
Thank you very much - sorry I didn't get back sooner to kiss your muddy feet but for some reason rootschat didn't send a notification email.

Whenever I see gaps in the memorials where the headstones have weathered I can't help wondering if one of those x-ray gadgets that archeologists/egyptologists use on ancient hieroglyphics would be able to enlighten us on the missing words.

I'm in despair when I read of vandalised headstones and wish somebody would inform the culprits that even though they might not have the same surname, they could so easily be desecrating one of their own family. 

Some people have been elevated into the annals of the famous for us to read of how we benefitted from their inventions but if the youngsters and councillors who want carparks paused to reflect, they'd realise that all our ancestors in these old graveyards had input into the inventions, they worked with the inventors from the first kernel of an idea and cemeteries are their memorials.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #82 on: Wednesday 31 March 10 20:27 BST (UK) »
Max,

2 stones of interest for you. 1st is in Wellwynd churchyard.
 "Erected by Adam Prentice in memory of his wife Janet Whitelaw who died 25th January 1859 aged 67 years and is the property of their heirs".

2nd stone is in Broomknoll churchyard, a few minutes walk from Wellwynd.
"The Property of Adam Prentice and Margaret Prentice his wife and their children 1832".

When both surnames are the same it usually means it is the wife's maiden surname too. It is also a "marker" stone, probably put there when the lair was purchased, to mark the spot. This may have been at the death of an infant.

Lodger.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #83 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 23:06 BST (UK) »
Lodger,
Many thanks for the details of the two headstones.
The Wellwynd Churchyard - I have had no success finding details on Adam and Janet Whitelaw.
The second stone at Broomknoll Churchyard is very interesting and I note your words of caution.
It is certainly close to Adam Prentice and Margaret Rennie.
Their first child Mary could be a match for the child burial 1832.
She was born and christened in Airdrie New Monklands during 1830 and does not appear on the 1841 family Census. Margaret Rennie died 1850 and Adam emigrated to Australia in 1852 with his step daughter Christina Morton Brash and her husband Thomas Prentice!
Christina and Thomas and their surviving child James Brash Prentice then moved on to California (Gold Rush).
Christina's sister and family stayed on in Australia. Whether Adam died in Australia remains unknown at present.
From this thread I am aware that there are major difficulties obtaining information from non establiched Church of Scotland OPR's.
I would appreciate any thoughts or guidance you may have.
Regards
Max.

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 02 May 10 18:48 BST (UK) »
The stone which marks the place where the remains of those people re-interred in New Monklands Cemetery (Ryden Mains Section)

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #85 on: Sunday 02 May 10 20:43 BST (UK) »
Anne, thank you so much for posting that.

Amongst so many others, relatives of others on this board, it commemorates my great great grandfather, my great great uncle and so many distant cousins.

I really appreciate seeing it, and will take some flowers there when I get the chance to go to the area.
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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #86 on: Sunday 02 May 10 21:04 BST (UK) »
You're very welcome Maggie!

Hopefully the attached view will help you find the stone when you get there. If you go during the week, there's usually Cemetery Staff around who will tell you/show you exactly where it is.

If you go at the weekend, follow the road straigt down from the entrance/cemetery office, go through either wee road with the white stones along the sides (that's then Ryden Mains), turn left and go as far as you can. The stone sits against the perimeter wall by itself.

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #87 on: Saturday 07 January 12 20:45 GMT (UK) »
You wanted to know about the Callow family IOM. My grandfather was Haydn Wilberforce Callow passed away a few years ago. He was from the IOM, his ansestors used to own the laxie wheel and invented the callow bacon slicer. My uncle another Haydn Wilberforce Callow is in Somerset. There are connection with Scotland, I think my mothers great uncle was the bishop of Iona ( the females of the family have Iona as their middle name me included,  glad it wasn't IOM).There is not many Callow's left in my family.

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 15:38 GMT (UK) »
I think my mothers great uncle was the bishop of Iona

I'd be very surprised if that were the case. As far as I know there has not been a Bishop of Iona since the Reformation.

The Church of Scotland does not have bishops, and neither the Episcopal nor the Roman Catholic Church has a diocese of Iona - in both cases Iona is in the diocese of Argyll and the Isles.
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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 17 January 12 15:43 GMT (UK) »
I don't suppose there are any Blacks or Waddells in these old kirkyards? I have found quite a few stones in Glenmavis, but there are plenty still not accounted for.
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