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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 February 09 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barbara,
From the Wellwynd register of lairs there is a William Gardner Clerk Street Airdrie purchased a lair 12th October 1839. No Finnies or Lindsays on this list.
From Wellwynd MIs there is a Christina Lindsay married to James Shaw of Whifflet.
Also an Elizabeth Gardner married to Davis (or David) Smellie.
No finnies in the MIs.

From Chapel Street MIs there is a James Finnie married to Marion Paterson.
Also Henry Gardner married to Mary Gray.
From the Chapel St exhumation list there is an Elizabeth Gardner married to John Black.

From Broomknoll churchyard MIs there is a Robert Finnie married to Christina Hailstone.
No Gardner or finnie MIs.

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Lodger
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 February 09 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lodger
I think quite a few of those identified are likely to be mine.
Thanks for taking the time to detail it out for me.
Barbara

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 February 09 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I can't believe this...such a beautiful church and quiet looking
I never knew of WellWynd having a cemetery...

Could you look for any Browns...and Paterson's
Robert Paterson/Christina Penman
Robert Brown x 2 both babies
James Brown/Janet Stewart
James Brown
David Beattie
Thanks ..Crookedtail
Paterson ...Lanarkshire,Old Monkland/Ayrshire
Penman..Lanarkshire,Fife
Brown  ..Old Monkland,Dennistown/Townhead
Moir...Dennistown
Beattie..????
Wood...Renfrewshire
Merrilees...Dennistown/Ayrshire
Davies...Wales
Richards..Wales
Howell..Wales

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 February 09 20:09 GMT (UK) »
I just received an email from a friend in Scotland regarding this matter.  I'm curious to see if you have anything on the names Brogan, McCheyne (McShane) or Johnston listed here.  Thank you.
Xeia
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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 February 09 21:08 GMT (UK) »
I'm shocked that they were just allowed to level it in the 60s.  At least they're doing everything properly this time.

Hi Lodger, If you get a chance, I would really appreciate a look up for these people.  I tried to buy the MI books off the Lanarkshire FHS website but could never get the paypal links to work.

Andrew Neilson d. 1938 and Margaret Kinniburgh d. 1948 (neither are in New Monkland despite the semi modern dates)
William Neilson d. 1875 and Jane / Jean McFarlane d. 1892
William Neilson and Jessie Anderson both d <1875
Thomas Kinniburgh d. 1902 and Margaret Abercrombie d. 1875
William Abercrombie d. 1877 and Lilias / Lily Russell d. 1856

Thanks in advance, hope I'm not asking to much  :)







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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 February 09 21:23 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Caroclay remarks, no exhumation. Leave the dead to R.I.P.
It did not show respect to tarmac over when it was originally turned into a car park, however perhaps that is how it should now be left?
RW

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 February 09 22:51 GMT (UK) »
I'm in agreement, especially since there are so many people who are now looking for their family history and those intered probably have someone living out there.  I am in the US, and I'm assuming a few of you are as well.  I had a call some time ago about 10 years ago from a cemetery in Chicago that wanted to sell and remove  my dad to another cemetery.  I flat out refused, as did many other family members.  Needless to say the cemetery is still there.  On one hand though, the building is beautiful and should be preserved but not at the expense of those that are buried there.  There has to be another solution.  And what happened back in the 60's did anyone bother to hold onto the stones?  I don't know it jsut doesn't seem right to me.  I guess I've seen and heard it all in my old age but this is to me is just not right.

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 February 09 01:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Crookedtail - Xeia - Damnonii,
Couldn't find anything for these names, although it helps if you can match up a male surname with a female maiden surname. To ask for a single name makes the search impossible and sometimes there are too many popular surnames to transcribe them all. (Brown for example).

As for the headstones discarded in the 1960's, no trace has been found, apart from a couple that were set into the retaining wall of the car park.
North Lanarkshire Council wasn't even sure if the car park had indeed been part of the burial ground. Three test bores were made and that was how it was found.
No living person can make a claim to have an ancestor buried there, the stones were taken away about 50 years ago and no lair plan or record of burials have been found.

I don't know if it will be readable, but here is a page from the burgh engineer's record of exhumations for the Chapel Street burial ground.  There had been a church there but old mine workings made it unsafe and it was torn down about 1852. The burial ground survived in part up until the 1960's, then the stones were removed and it was grassed-over and blocks of flats built beside it.

Lodger
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: 350 graves to be exhumed
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 February 09 01:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Lodger.  I was just curious if those names were there.  I didn't honestly think they were as my were mostly Irish Catholic.  My lineage in Scotland is quite large, as my great grandfather was John Johnston who married Mary Brogan - her father was Dennis Brogan and her mother was Catherine McShane who passed in 1903 at the old workhouse in Airdrie.  I've been researching with the help of a Scottish researcher named Christopher who is by far one of the best I've ever come across.  Chris sent me the information on this, and I followed through on it.  You know, there is a project going on now, i.e. the Coatbridge Project.  The webpage is http://www.coatbridgeirishgenealogyproject.co.uk/

It is a sad world when you pave for a parking lot isn't it?