Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth

[JAP]

I have christian/christina death cert also her husband john's, they both died in Dunkeld 4 months apart in 1887  ...

Hi Suz,

What are given as parents' names and occupations on these certs?

JAP

[Gadget]

The Christina one would be the one that I looked at, JAP, that led us to Charles Stewart and Christian Scrimgeor/n. Are you thinking that John's mother might have been a Fraser?  He was b.c. 1805.


Gadget

[Gadget]

John's parents - William Stewart and Dorothy, m.s McIntosh.


Gadget

[JAP]

From IGI:

Neil MCKAY m Catharine STEWART, 30 Dec 1844, Logierait

Parents Neil MCKAY & Catherine STEWART:
John MCKAY, b 19 Oct 1845
Neil MCKAY, b 25 Sep 1847
Both Little Dunkeld

As Catherine & little Neil are with her father in 1851, perhaps Neil snr had died?

JAP
PS: Gadget, I didn't know that you had looked at Christina's death cert.  I thought it was her son John's 1855 birth cert which you looked at which led you to Charles STEWART & Christian SCRIMGEOUR, and to her birthplace.
I'm not really thinking anything in particular except that if might even have been a grandmother's name - or, of course, just have been a total error.

[Gadget]

I think I'm losing it or it's late  - it was the 1851 census that I found them on and I was looking for marriages/births in the 1850s  rather than the 1840s 

I'll see if I can find a death for Catherine and then it must be bed.

Got the death for Catherine very early on in the thread and got the 1855 cert when you identified it.

Gadget

[JAP]

Hi Gadget,

Ah yes, I thought that's what you'd done i.e. mixed 1851 and 1861.  Staying up so late is not the best idea as I found yesterday when I got muddled about SCRIMGEOUR.

John's parents - William Stewart and Dorothy, m.s McIntosh.

I'm wondering whether this is a mistake too ...

In reply #26 I suggested a household of William & Grace in 1841, Grace in 1851, for John's parents - because it had an appropriate person for John's brother Alexander (the Alexander who was with John in 1861 and 1871).  And if this was the right Alexander another good fit was that he had no occupation recorded in 1841 or 1851.  The brother with John had no occupation in 1861, and was a pauper in 1871.  I wondered if he might not have been able to work.

And the IGI has submitted and extracted entries for a John STEWART 1805 Little Dunkeld, with parents William STEWART & Girzel (Girzel/Grizel an old form of Grace) MCINTOSH as parents ...
There are also some submitted entries for later children of William STEWART/Grace MCINTOSH.

JAP

[Gadget]

Informant on John's death cert is John Stewart, son so he, again could have given part of the name wrong 


A final word from me for tonight - I've just peeped at Charles Stewart and Christian Scrimigeor's marriage entry of 1811, Logierait.

Charles is described as Wright in Torrchelie/Tomchelie  and Christian as daughter of Alexr Scrimguer in Tulloch


Gadget

[JAP]

I think I mentioned that the IGI (submitted) entry for the 1811 marriage mentions Christian's father as Alex.
But doesn't mention Charles's father's name.

Oh!  Now we have two more place names!  Let's hope they are easier than Drumshannachan.

JAP

[Gadget]

Here they are: