Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth

[JAP]

I had looked in the 1841 census earlier (as one would) - but I was looking in entirely the wrong place i.e. near Little Dunkeld.

I would never have found Charles STEWART & co were it not for ADP's brilliant find of Edradynate which sent me looking in the right place.

Yes, there are many submitted entries for Logierait which look very reliable.  It does rather seem as though there is much more in the parish registers (and on SP) than has been extracted into the online IGI.  So Suz might find much more - fingers are crossed for you Suz.

JAP

[Gadget]

Did we get the 1851:

Knocriach(?),  Logierait
376 ED 9 Page 6

Stewart
Charles, 71, carpenter, b. Weem
John, 33, son,  carpenter, b. Weem
Cathrine McKay, dau,  30, dressmaker, b. Logierait
Neil Mckay, daughter's son, 3, b. ? Perthshire

Now - if John was b. Weem could 'our' Christian have been born there too?


Gadget

[Gadget]

 

Charles is on the 1861 - same place - so we'll be able to get a death cert 


Gadget

[Gadget]

Not sure if it is him but it's the only one and  the plot thickens ~

Charles Stewart died 16 December 1864, Littleton, Little Dunkeld

Joiner, widower of Christina Fraser, aged 86. Father was Duncan Stewart, labourer, dec.

Informant - John Stewart/Stuart (bad signature), son in law


Gadget

[JAP]

Hi Suz,

In your summary, you wrote:

 ...  (possibly a John Stewart b1855) and
(twins John & Donald Stewart which I dont think she had)  ...

As Gadget has pointed out, 'your' Christian (STEWART) STEWART most definitely did have John in 1855.  Gadget kindly downloaded John's birth certificate which was a mine of information- it (correctly) showed that John was her 6th child, which led to the names of her parents (Charles STEWART & Christian SCRIMGEOUR), and which led to her birthplace.

And as was pointed out earlier (see my reply #9), 'your' Christian (STEWART) STEWART most definitely did NOT have twins John & Donald.  They were children of a much younger couple - coincidentally also John STEWART & Christian STEWART (these names are common in the general area!) - who lived in Fortingall.

Anyway, it seems you can now add quite a lot to your summary taking it further back in time.

The submitted entry for the 1811 marriage of Charles STEWART & Christian SCRIMGEOUR is on SP (see reply #25).  And we have possibles/probables for John STEWART's parents (see reply 26).

And (see Gadget's latest posts) it seems that you might well be able to get the parents of Charles STEWART.

Lots of fun ahead!

JAP
PS: Gadget, perhaps that is yet another Charles Stewart though that seems unlikely.  Perhaps Christina Fraser was a second (or first) wife?  Or confusion by s-i-l John with other generations?

[Gadget]

The only other Charles of roughly the same age was single and a retired Factor in Fortingall. I'll put in a wider age band just in case*.

I'm thinking that the John Stewart, son in law, could be the John Stewart who married 'our' Christian.

The Fraser is confusing but it might be that John didn't know/gave it in error.

Gadget

* did a birth range of 1770-1790 and still only these two

[Gadget]

 

IGI extracted

Bpt. 16 March 1780, Weem  - Charles Stewart

Parents - Dun(can) Stewat and Christ(ian) McGrigor


Gadget

[JAP]

There's a Charles STEWART, Christian FRAZER marriage in the IGI 1780.  And an Alexander to parents of those names in 1783.

Yes, I'd assumed that s-i-l John was 'ours' given the Littleton address.

Of course, with all these STEWARTs, perhaps John got confused with family members on his own side.

JAP

[Gadget]

I've been trying to investigate the Neil McKay/ Catherine McKay (I presume this is Charles daughter, Catherine Stewart). I've searched for marriages and birth registrations (as Stewart and M*cKay)  1855-1859 but nothing and nothing really on the 1861 when she was not with her father and brother.

Hoped to get mother's name  from a marriage as a check but so far no luck.

It's getting late here so I'll have another go tomorrow.


Gadget