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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 03:31 GMT (UK) »
Tomchellie appears in Logierait in the 1841 (address just Tomchellie) and 1851 (address given as Tomchellie Killiechassie) censuses.
It would seem to be SW of Edradynate towards Aberfeldy.  It's not on Streetmap UK but, if the census routes were walked in order, then it would be between Killiechassie (now owned by JK Rowling) and Tombuie (both of which are on Streetmap).

And for Alexander, is this Tulloch in the parish of (East) Perth - on the northern outskirts of the city of Perth?

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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 08:25 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure about Tulloch. The only one that I'm familiar with is near Dingwall.

I've just found this though:

http://www.residential-property-scotland.co.uk/sale_central/pdf/ABE080042.pdf

It's a small row of houses near Aberfeldy called Tulloch of Ballechin.



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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 08:53 GMT (UK) »
Nearest that I can find on Streetmap is this:

Click for Map*

To summarize:

Christian Stewart's parents were Charles Stewart and Christian Scrimigeur of Drumshannachan

Charles Stewart's parents - Duncan Stewart and Christian McGrigor of Weem (possibly later of Tomchellie)

Christian Scrimigeur's father - Alexander Scrimigeur of Tulloch (east of Aberfeldy?)



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Edit - Map link changed to Ballechin  :)
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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Gadget,

Excellent find.

Go to Ballechin on Streetmap - it's a few km east of Edradynate but unfortunately Tulloch doesn't show.

However, on the John Thomson 1832 map there's Mill Tullich (sic) just next to Balinchin (sic).

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PS: Not too far from the Edradynate Estate!  And not too far for Charles to come courting from Tomchellie.
Later edit: On the John Thomson map, Mill Tullich is located at a spot which would be about half-way between Pitnacree and Ballechin on Streetmap.


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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 09:23 GMT (UK) »
That's an even better location. I was searching around Aberfeldy itself. I'll update my map link

 :)

PS - I'm going up in a few weeks time. I might be able to do a slight detour off the A9 and take some photos

Added - I've just found this:

The place name comes from the Gaelic word "tulach," meaning a "hillock."

I always thought it meant something like Brae
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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #68 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi
yes gadget you are right about the death certs.

John's parents - William Stewart and Dorothy, m.s McIntosh.

Christian's parents - Charles Stewart and Christian Scrimgeor/n.

and on both certs its John Stewart -Son  that is the informant.


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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 13:59 GMT (UK) »
Gadget,

There are some photos of the area on:
www.geograph.org.uk

I was thinking that you might be able to go and spook yourself at Ballechin House.  :P
"Ballechin House was considered the most haunted house in Scotland with its sightings and sounds.  Animals reacted to these.  Parapsychologists investigated.  There is the legend ...  "
See:
http://www.dark-stories.com/eng/the_ballechin_house.htm
But then I read the legend - unfortunately the house was demolished in 1963!

The link you found to a site re a cottage for sale at Tulloch of Ballechin gives good directions to it.  However, it says that the row of four cottages are thought to date from the late 19th century; I wonder whether there are any earlier buildings nearby.

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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 14:17 GMT (UK) »
I'll make sure that I take a bottle of water with a spray attatchment then  ;D

A couple of  possibles for marriages of Alexander Scrimgeor (IGI extracted). Both Dull:

8 December 1781 to Nelly Scrimgeor
12 November 1785 to Girsal McFarlan

Nothing on Duncan Stewart/ Christian McGrigor/McGregor so far.


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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #71 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Suz,

I wouldn't worry too much about possible errors in death certificates - they are notoriously unreliable.

And remember, John (born 1855) probably knew only one of his grandparents - Charles STEWART - and even he died when John was only 9.

I'd be pretty confident that John's parents were Wiliam STEWART & Grizel/Grace MCINTOSH (as per reply #26).

I looked for Grace's death on SP and found it in 1855.  I usually resist the temptation but this being an 1855 cert ...

1855 Deaths in the Parish of Little Dunkeld in the County of Perth
Name:
Stewart Grace
Sex:
Female
Age:
78 years
Where Born and how long in this District:
Glenalbert, Parish of Little Dunkeld. Resided in the district where the Death occurred all her life.
Parents' Names and Occupation:
John MacIntosh, Farmer, Deceased.  Bell MacIntosh, maiden surname Macintosh, Deceased
If Married to Whom:
William Stewart, Labourer, Deceased
Issue in Order of Birth; their Names and Ages:
1. John Stewart  50 years
2. Alexander  -  48 . do
3. Donald  -  46 . do dec
4. Janet  -  44  do dec
5. William .  42 . do dec
6. Bell  -  40 . do
7. David  -  38 . do dec
8. Dorothy - 36 .   Dec
When Died:
August Twenty Seventh, 1h pm 1855
Where Died:
Glenalbert, Parish of Little Dunkeld
Cause of Death
Stroke of the body.  No medical attendant.
Where Buried
Burial Ground of Logierait as certified by Chas Fraser(?) Undertaker
Signature of Informant
(Signed) John Stewart, son
When and where registered, and Signature of Registrar
28th August 1855 at  Little Dunkeld.  (Signed) Ross Gow, Registrar

All of the above children are in the IGI (extracted or submitted) except Dorothy.
John (1805), Alexander (1807), Donald (1810), Janet (1812), William (1815), Bell (1819), David (1822).
Father is given as William/Wm. STEWART.
Mother is given as Girzel/Grizel/Grisel/Grace MCINTOSH/MC INTOSH.

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