William Henry Tittley

[HSU]

I am seeking information prior to 1881 on William Henry Tittley, born circa 1846 in Dudley, Staffs and died 05 August 1910 at Cote Hill, Carlisle, Cumberland.  He married Mary Ann Dawson on 10 April 1877 in Carlisle, Cumberland.

Any info will be received gratefully.

[sillgen]

Hi and welcome to rootschat. 
Do you have the marriage certificate for them in 1877?  Apr quarter 1877 Carlisle 10b 701    That might be a sensible move as it will give both fathers' names and also Mary's maiden name.  I am assuming she has been married before as there is a Wm Dawson living with them in 1881 - of course he could be their child born before marriage.  I see she is called Mary Jane in 1881.  Which is correct?
FreeBMD has another William Henry Titley marriage in Dudley in 1857 so there might be a clue there.
Regards
Andrea

[HSU]

Hi Andrea,

Thanks for the welcome!  I have the marriage cert.  She was Mary Ann Dawson, spinster declared when married.  His Father was registered as George , a general labourer.  Hers as William, again a general labourer.

Regards,

[sillgen]

I am not doing well on finding William in earlier census.  Will move this to the Staffordshire board so that someone with local knowledge might pick it up.  Who were the witnesses at the marriage?  Often they are family members.  Have you got earlier details of Mary Ann?
Andrea

[HSU]

Hi Andrea,

Apologies for the slow response but I have been researching the Dawsons.  I have found the parents, Margaret & William in the 1851/61/71 censuses living in Upperby, Carlisle.

The 1851/61 info suggests that they had two Daughters called Mary Ann, the first born in 1850 died in early 1853 and the second was born a couple of months later and presumably named after her deceased Sister.  I have found birth & death entries to support that theory but I have not got certs yet.

The 1871 data shows a Grandaughter living with them and I have a cert that shows she is the child of Mary Ann.  So Mary Ann had two Children before she married William Henry.  Although he brought them up with him, I am not sure whether he is the Father.  He is not mentioned on Margaret's birth cert.

Thanks for moving my query to the Staffordshire board, hopefully someone will assist me.  I am reassured that you have not found William Henry in ear lier censuses. I thought it was just me being unclever!!  There is a Family suggestion that his Father remarried and he did not get on with his Stepmother and so left home to go north and work on the Settle to Carlisle railway.  If true, I wonder if he was in some railway accommodation and might appear in a collective census return?

Witnesses on the marriage cert are John Clark and Elizabeth Hastings and I cannot see any family connection.

Best wishes,

Dennis

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Dennis

The only William Tittley/Titley I can find in 1871 giving a birth reference of Dudley is at the following reference RG10/Piece 2982 Folio 89 Page 43

For some reason he doesn't come up on the search I spotted the mothers name first but he is only 4 so the wrong age. It looks like the marriage from 1857 so I will keep looking

Dudley also come under Worcestershire on Ancestry

Willow x

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Dennis

I'm coming up with a dead end here

I might be worth buying the marriage certificate from 1857 for William Henry Titley (known as Henry) He married a Mary Ann Ludham who gives her bithplace as Dudley but I cant find her on earlier census either

I wonder if the not getting on with the stepmother is actually not getting on with the stepfather but he was using his stepfathers surname. There isnt a death for a George Tittley/Titley listed either

Willow x

[HSU]

Hi Willow,

Thanks for your interest and for the info.  I will explore the references you give and see what I find.

[DMP]

Hi
On west midlands BMD
http://www.bmsgh.org/wmbmd/
it has William but the bride is Sarah GRIFFITHS
and
Mary Ann Ludham
William WHITBY
both at All Saints Sedgley

Donna