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Re: Des Longrais - serious help needed!
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 30 July 17 18:40 BST (UK) »
You know that Marie NEBAUDON is at least ten years older than Auguste DURAND DESLONGRAIS.
She could have been a widow.

My fear : that Antoine HEYRAUD and his wife left Clermont-Ferrand and went to Paris where at least two siblings of Marie NEBAUDON moved before the death of their father.

Louise NEBODON got married in 1855 in Montauban

http://www.archivesdepartementales.cg82.fr/visu_affiche.php?PHPSID=rka5esuaaigu8fmevva8v0on54&param=visu&page=1&pagecss=etat_civil

Frame 23/52

http://gw.geneanet.org/chevallier1?lang=fr&pz=charlotte&nz=de+villespassans&ocz=0&p=marie+louise+sophie&n=nebodon

Well, nothing conclusive so far.



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« Reply #28 on: Monday 31 July 17 13:12 BST (UK) »
This is incredible!!  So many years trying to get anything before Auguste and you have cracked it!  I have found various bits over the years, but my schoolgirl French and lack of knowledge of French genealogy have been big barriers.

Marie did appear in the 1861 census with baby Marie (no Auguste) in Swansea.  I am trying to find that record again but it was mis-transcribed and I can't recall the name.  That was the record that stated a birthplace of Clermont (an upgrade to my tree software has wiped a lot of the media and detail.  I will get on to Find my Past and let you know what detail those records contain.

Some of the links are sending me to a blank page.
 
Marie's maiden name appears on all of her children's birth certificates. 
When my sister visited the records office in Port Louis, the obstacle seemed to be that we did not know exact location of the birth just that it was Port Louis. 

I can't thank you enough for all this information. 





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« Reply #29 on: Monday 31 July 17 13:47 BST (UK) »
It's not sure yet that Marie NEBAUDON, the one born in 1823, is your ancestress.

In 1837, Mr DURAND DESLONGRAIS (which one, the father or the son ?) seems to live in Port-Louis. On May 6th 1837, confirmation de l'affranchissement du service de l'apprentissage de Philogène L'INDOLENTE, âgé de 20 ans, apprenti appartenant à M. DURAND DESLONGRAIS.

Same thing for Henry LA REINE, 28 years old, in 1833. Cet apprenti appartenant à Made DURAND DESLONGRAIS.

http://www.info-mauritius.com/france/abolition-de-l-esclavage-ile-maurice.html

Le Retour à la Liberté

A la suite du vote du Slavery Abolition Act en 1833 par le Parlement britannique, et après les réticences venant des propriétaires d’esclaves eurent été estompées par la mise en place du system d’apprentissage*.

La soumission de l’abolition servile fut abolie à Maurice en 1835 par le régime Britannique.

Inscrit au patrimoine mondial de l’humanité par l’UNESCO en 2008, la montagne du Morne Brabant et ses environs représentent le symbole de la lutte et la résistance des marrons (esclaves fugitifs) à l’île Maurice. *Le système de l’apprentissage prescrivait que les esclaves devaient continuer à travailler pour leurs propriétaires en tant qu’apprentis pendant encore quelques années, après quoi ils étaient émancipés et les propriétaires étaient par la suite indemnisés.
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Antoine Henri FARAGUET, the widower of Marie Joseph Henriette DURAND DESLONGRAIS, remarried in Paris (8th arrondissement) in 1860 (25/10/1860). He married Lise Reine RUTAULT, born in Paris in 1821. They had a child, a girl, out of wedlock in Dole (Jura) in 1851 (05/02/1851).
Antoine Henri FARAGUET died in Paris (12th arrondissement) in 1869 (15/06/1869). He was a maths teacher.



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Re: Des Longrais - serious help needed!
« Reply #30 on: Monday 31 July 17 16:39 BST (UK) »
Hi again,  my brain has gone into meltdown! Trying to read the French documents together with the names repeating!!  I will send the clearest of Marie's maiden name as written on a birth certificate.  Unfortunately, some of the links you provided didn't work, but hopefully I have the main points. Would you be kind enough to retry the link giving the career history of Charles Malo Jocet Deslongrais and the one for the birth of Marie Nebodon.  Thank you.

Does it seem strange that a couple would leave Mauritius and travel, firstly, to Wales before moving to Warwickshire?  Although Auguste was called to the bar after studying at the Inner Temple, records show that he never worked in law choosing to teach French instead.

The passport records you found show Auguste D Delongrais and Samuel D Deslongrais applying for a passport on 24th February 1860. No other details. This is the first time I have come across a Samuel, but it gave no info regarding age or relationship.

Thank you so much for all your work and help
Judd - Warwickshire
DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
Tiplady - Bedfordshire


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Re: Des Longrais - serious help needed!
« Reply #31 on: Monday 31 July 17 18:35 BST (UK) »
For the career history of Charles Malo JOCET DESLONGRAIS, it's a problem with JAVA. Upload JAVA and use IE.

For the birth record of Marie, I gave you no link. Only one for the birth record of her sister Marie "Louise" Sophie NEBAUDON. http://www.archivesdepartementales.puydedome.fr/ark:/72847/vta9c20f64477848475/daogrp/0/168

The birth record of Marie NEBAUDON in 1823 in Nébouzat

http://www.archivesdepartementales.puydedome.fr/ark:/72847/vtaa23df7de495ce445/daogrp/0/24

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« Reply #32 on: Saturday 05 August 17 14:26 BST (UK) »
There is nothing else I can do for you.

May be a professional in Mauritius could help you to find the birth record of Auguste DURAND DESLONGRAIS. It's a key record.

http://gw.geneanet.org/jrussell2?lang=fr&pz=julie+myriam+jacqueline&nz=series&ocz=0&p=louise+augustine&n=gourel+de+saint+pern

http://gw.geneanet.org/ruche?lang=fr&pz=jean+edouard+jacques&nz=ruche&ocz=0&p=louise+julie+minie&n=gourel+de+saint+pern

http://www.racines-des-mascareignes.fr/crbst_882.html

"GOUREL de SAINT PERN Louis Claude Hyacinthe :  23 août 2011

ondoyé le 5 avril 1744 à Pont-Scorff (Morbihan), (pas trouvé le baptême à date mais il semblerait qu'il soit baptisé le 2 novembre 1756 à Brest - 12 ans plus tard !), fils de Claude Anne GOUREL, Sr de SAINT PERN, originaire de Lannion (Côtes d'Armor) et de Yolande Thérèse Perrine TAILLARD, Dame de PENVERN (mariés à Lannion - 22 - le 25 août 1733)
Ecrivain des colonies, Contrôleur de la Marine (1783), Ordonnateur (1798-1803), il épouse Marie Anne CHASTEIGNER de PARADIS (1763-1804) le 31 janvier 1780 à Pamplemousses, ils auront ensemble au moins 10 enfants.
Il décédera à Rivière Noire le 20 avril 1811."

http://gw.geneanet.org/jrussell2?lang=fr&pz=julie+myriam+jacqueline&nz=series&ocz=0&p=louise+augustine&n=gourel+de+saint+pern

Artus Joseph TAILLART and Françoise PEAN got married in 1691 (31/07/1691) in Tréguier, Saint-Vincent de l'Hôpital parish

http://sallevirtuelle.cotesdarmor.fr/EC/ecx/consult.aspx?image=060653582247536

Frame 180/278

A descendant of that couple just told me that Françoise PEAN is linked to Hugh CAPET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Capet

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Re: Des Longrais - serious help needed!
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 06 August 17 12:04 BST (UK) »
Looking at the two trees on those links it appears that both sisters married Henry. The previous record you found for me was for Louise Julie Mimi marrying.  Has one of those tree owners made an error or am I missing something?

You have helped me so much - a thousand thanks yous :)
Judd - Warwickshire
DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
Tiplady - Bedfordshire

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« Reply #34 on: Sunday 06 August 17 12:30 BST (UK) »
That's why I gave you the two links because there is a difference in the given names. The parents are the same. I don't know if there are two sisters or it's a single person. I don't have access to those records for further checking.

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« Reply #35 on: Sunday 06 August 17 15:50 BST (UK) »
I see. Thanks again for your help.
Judd - Warwickshire
DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
Tiplady - Bedfordshire