Des Longrais - serious help needed!

[davidqueneherve]

Antoine Normand, marchand de vin, married Marie Madeleine CAILLAUD in 1739 in Rochefort, Saint-Louis Parish (10/FEB/1739)

http://www.archinoe.net/v2/ad17/visualiseur/registre.html?id=170032389

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Son of Pierre NORMAND and Marie NORMANDIN

He comes from Villeneuve, Chassors parish en Saintonge. I guess it's http://www.mairie-chassors.fr/villeneuve-commune-de-chassors.php

She is 16 years old. Daughter of the late Nicolas CAILLAUD and Marie Madeleine BOUYER. She is a native of Rochefort.

13/JAN/1721 Rochefort, Saint-Louis parish, marriage record of Nicolas CAILLAUD, marchand de bois, and Madeleine BOUYER

Parents :

- + René CAILLAUD, maître menuisier, and + Marie BONNET. The groom comes from Les Essarts, Saint-Porchaire paris, in Saintonge http://www.coeurdesaintonge.fr/nos-communes/les-essards/
- François BOUYER, marchand, and Marie AURARD

http://www.archinoe.net/v2/ad17/visualiseur/registre.html?id=170032214

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[davidqueneherve]

http://gw.geneanet.org/hmaurel?n=durand&oc=&p=denis+louis
tells us that the parents of Denis Louis DURAND were Louis Henry DURAND and Marie Henriette DUVAL

There is an entry on Geneanet for their son Amand Louis DURAND

http://gw.geneanet.org/pdelaubier?n=durand&oc=&p=louis+henri

and a very useful record

http://www.geneanet.org/archives/registres/view/4513/306

Louis Henry DURAND is mentioned in the record as a secrétaire du roi, ancien notaire

and it gives us the names of relatives like Jean Baptiste Denis LEMPEREUR, maternal grant uncle, Louis Alexandre MOUETTE, maternal uncle ...

As most of the records of Paris are lost, that kind of information is very precious.

[davidqueneherve]

The banns for the marriage of Denis Louis DURAND and Marie Joseph JOCET DESLONGRAIS can bee seen online

Ile de France, Pamplemousses, 20 brumaire an XIII (revolutionary calendar)

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/pix2web.php?territoire=ILE%20DE%20FRANCE&commune=PAMPLEMOUSSES&annee=1804

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Son of + Louis Henri DURAND, notaire, and Marie Thérèse Henriette DUVAL

The marriage record is view 21, 30 brumaire an XIII

[davidqueneherve]

https://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Au_del%C3%A0_de_l%27Etat-Civil_-_75_-_localisation_des_%C3%A9tudes_-_en_1770

His professional address in 1770

97    Louis-Henri DURAND    Place Dauphine, près le pont-Neuf

[davidqueneherve]

The uncle Louis Alexandre MOUETTE :

http://gw.geneanet.org/bedenis?n=mouette&oc=&p=louis+alexandre

His wife was Marie Valérie DUVAL, daughter of Abraham Louis DUVAL and Marie Louise LEMPEREUR

http://gw.geneanet.org/gonemichet?lang=fr&pz=christian&nz=doyen&ocz=0&p=abraham+louis&n=duval

[davidqueneherve]

Wow David!

This is a LOT of information!  How did you find it all?  This is going to take a bit of piecing together to understand.  I know the family were Notaires in Mauritius.

I will get on to this tomorrow and try to see where all this fits.

Thank you!

I am pretty sure that your ancestor Auguste DURAND DESLONGRAIS is a descendant of Denis Louis DURAND and Marie Joseph JOCET DESLONGRAIS.

Are his parents Louis Armand Charles DURAND DESLONGRAIS and Marie Emma ICERY (+ 1893) ?

If he is their son, Denis Louis DURAND is his great-grand-father.

[Tracy1303]

I am somewhat overwhelmed with all this info and don't know quite where to start.  My knowledge of Auguste starts when he arrives here. His daughters death cert states 'daughter of Louis Marie Auguste Deslongrais born at Port Louis, Mauritius 1840'. On his children's birth certificates in the early 1860s he gives his name as 'Auguste Durand Deslongrais' his wife was Marie Nebodon (Neboden?). I also have a record of him studying at the Inner Temple in 1855 which states he is the 2nd son of Henri Durand Deslongrais of Port Louis, barrister-ar-law.

The using of different parts of thei names doesn't help clarify things!

I can't see which of the records you have given me links back to these Durand Deslongrais, probably as you seem to have gone further back than any knowledge I have.

Does any of this tie in?  Are you connected to this family?

P.s.  My sister was recently in Mauritius and, despite visiting the records office in person, was still unable to get the birth or marriage certificates!

[davidqueneherve]

https://books.google.fr/books?hl=fr&id=FWkNAAAAIAAJ&dq=deslongrais+mauritius&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=deslongrais

DESLONGRAIS Louis Marie Auguste Durand, 2d son of Henry DURAND DESLONGRAIS of Port-Louis, Mauritius, bar. at law. Born 1837.

So his father is a Henry DURAND DESLONGRAIS and he has two sons.

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Henri MAUREL, a specialist, mentions Louis Marie Henry DURAND DESLONGRAIS, as a son of Denis Louis DURAND and Marie JOCET DESLONGRAIS.

http://gw.geneanet.org/hmaurel?lang=fr&p=louis+marie+henry&n=durand

Marriage in 1832 to Louise Julie Mimi GOUREL de SAINT PERN

He was born in 1805 in Port-Louis

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/pix2web.php?territoire=ILE%20DE%20FRANCE&commune=PORT-LOUIS&annee=1805&typeacte=AC_NA

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Son of Denis Louis DURAND, notaire, and Marie JOCET DESLONGRAIS

(Notaire from 1791 to 1809

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/ir?num=20&referer=nominatif&q=&ir=FRANOM_00038&persname_authfilenumber=1248&start=1)

The death record of his sister Marie Joseph Henriette DURAND DESLONGRAIS in Dijon clearly shows that the family name DURAND DESLONGRAIS is the association of her father's name and half of her mother's name (nom de branche). They belonged to the bourgeoisie and there were other DURANDS on the island. DESLONGRAIS made a difference and added some prestige to a very common French name. It also indicates the maternal lineage (mother born on the island and certainly better known by the locals than a newcomer).

A long record describing a good part of their grandfather's carreer (Charles Malo JOCET DESLONGRAIS)

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/p2w/?dossier=/collection/INVENTAIRES/Ministeres/SEM/E/&first=241_349B/FRCAOM06_COLE_241349B_0677&last=241_349B/FRCAOM06_COLE_241349B_0876&title=Jocet-Deslongrais,+Charles+Malo,+ancien+commissaire+de+la+Marine,+et+sa+fille+Marie+Madeleine,+%C3%A9pouse+divorc%C3%A9e+de+Advisard+(Joseph+Guillaume),+capitaine+au+r%C3%A9giment+de+l%27%C3%AEle+de+France+1755/an+II

Henry DURAND DESLONGRAIS has at least one son, Louis Armand Charles DURAND DESLONGRAIS, husband of Marie Emma ICERY.

REPERTOIRE DES MINUTES DES NOTAIRES DE L'ILE MAURICE
https://www.cg974.fr/culture/.../418-10-J-et-1-MIANM-Notaires-de-l-île-Maurice.html
Etude DURAND-DESLONGRAIS. 1867-1891. Louis- ...... Pamplemousses. HARSCHER (Jean Henri) ... DURAND-DESLONGRAIS (Louis Armand). DURRANS ...

South African Commercial Advertiser 1842 - 2 - April to June - eGGSA ...
https://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.../53-sac-1842-apr-jun
Traduire cette page
In the Independent Chapel on Tuesday 22nd March by the Rev Henry ... by the Rev J Griffith, Adr. Louis Henry Durand DES LONGRAIS, of Mauritius, to Leontine ...

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On Findmypast, there is an entry for

Deslongrais    Auguste D    —    —    1860    Index To Register Of Passport Applications 1851-1903    —

I can't see the record. Does it give some interesting details ?

There is also

Deslongrais    Samuel D    —    —    1860    Index To Register Of Passport Applications 1851-1903    —

You said that Auguste DURAND DESLONGRAIS arrived around 1860 and his wife, Marie, gave birth to a daughter in 1860.

Is it because of her death certificate that you know Marie's maiden name ?

Deslongrais    Marie    1824    1880    1880    England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007    Warwick, Warwickshire, England

Place of birth in the 1871 census ?

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The way I feel things Auguste is the second son of Louis Marie Henry DURAND LESLONGRAIS and his wife née GOUREL de SAINT PERN and a grandson of Denis Louis DURAND and Marie Joseph DURAND DESLONGRAIS.

As you couldn't find his birth record in Port-Louis, we can deduce he was born somewhere else (unless some records are missing).

If you could be sure of the maiden name of his wife Marie and her birthplace, maybe there is a chance to find their marriage record. Hopefully, they got married in France.















 

[davidqueneherve]

It coud be NEBAUDON.

You said somewhere that Marie was a native of Clerremont in France.

A Marie Louise Sophie NEBAUDON was born in Clermont-Ferrant in 1826 (14/10/1826)

http://www.archivesdepartementales.puydedome.fr/ark:/72847/vta9c20f64477848475/daogrp/0/layout:table/idsearch:RECH_498e33ab613a9b06d3a65d6d77527207

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Father Antoine NEBAUDON (signature NEBODON), 53 years old
Mother : Marguerite URBAINS

Employé comme piéton à la préfecture du département du Puy-de-Dôme et chevalier de la Légion d'honneur.

http://www.culture.gouv.fr/LH/LH172/PG/FRDAFAN83_OL1979021V001.htm

He passed away in 1843 leaving 8 children. Among them, Marie NEBODON wife of Antoine HEYRAUD.
His wife name is spelled URBANS

The record includes a copy of their marriage certificate in 1806 (16/AUG/1806) in Deuxponts. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deux-Ponts
Antoine NEBAUDON, 33 years old, son of Jacques NEBAUDON and Marie MATHIEU, and Marguerite URBANS, 23 years old, daughter of Jean Pierre URBANS and Anne Marie ARNVEILER (or a name close). She is a native of Lay, mairie de Winningen, département de Rhin et Moselle (it's near Koblenz in Germany).

Antoine NEBAUDON was a native of Veyre-Monton (Puy-de-Dôme) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veyre-Monton

Marie NEBAUDON married Antoine HEYRAUD in 1841 in Clermont-Ferand (30/06/1841). She is 17 and a half. Antoine HEYRAUD is 23 and a half. He is a jeweler.
Marie NEBAUDON was born in Nebouzat on November 15th 1823.

Next step, check if Antoine HEYRAUD passed away before 1859.