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WORDSWORTH of Wortley
« on: Monday 02 February 09 05:22 GMT (UK) »
Seeking information regarding the WORDSWORTH family from Wortley.

Mence WORDSWORTH born 1867 Hoyland Common (District Barnsley) YKS married 1888 in Wortley to Ada FIRTH from Sheffield and had two (known) sons: Edgar and Frank.

Frank WORDSWORTH born 1890 Wortley immigrated to Canada, and married 1921 in Wentworth County, Ontario CAN to Edna Alice HAMPSON, daughter of John Edward HAMPSON formerly of Doncaster YKS.

Descendants wanted, or any further details of the WORDSWORTH family.

Is Mence a local name or can anyone suggest a derivation?


Jill Statton, Adelaide, South Australia.


From Adelaide, South Australia, I am primarily interested in the WEBB family:
William - Tamworth STS, Melton Mowbray LEI
Mrs Sarah nee BINDLEY - Ealing MDX
William Thomas Bindley - South Australia
Allan - Calcutta, India
Edward Walter - Leamington WAR
Matthew - Paddington LND
Arthur Charles - South Australia
Sarah Frances - Bendigo VIC Australia
Francis - Macclesfield CHS
Mrs Charlotte HAMPSON - Doncaster YKS
George - Camberwell SRY
Charles - South Australia

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Re: WORDSWORTH of Wortley
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 February 09 11:52 GMT (UK) »

Hello Jill  ;)

You may already have this - apologies if so  :D

1871
RG10  P. 4650  Fol 114  Pg. 31


Stead Lane, Hoyland

WORDSWORTH
Sarah  Head  Wid 28    B.  Yorks, Wentworth
Mary Hannah  Dau  7
Mence  Son  4

Children both born Hoyland

The only marriage I can see in Barnsely district for a Wordsworth and a Sarah:

Q4. 1863  Septimus Wordsworth  :  Sarah Fletcher on the page
Vol. 9c.  Pg. 215

Death reg:  Septimus Fletcher Q1. 1871 Barnsley.  Vol. 9c.  Pg. 109

1861
RG9  P. 3451  Fol. 124  Pg. 32


Lane End, Nether Hoyland, Yorks

WORDSWORTH
Thomas  Head  M  66  Ag  Lab.  B.  Yorks  Hoyland
Hannah  Wife  M  60                  B.  Yorks, Ecclesfield
Thomas  Son  Un  29  Iron miner   B.  Yorks  Hoyland
Septimus  Son  Un  22    ~ ~         B.     ~        ~

1861
RG9.  P. 3451  Fol. 118  Pg. 20


Hoyland Common, Nether Hoyland

FLETCHER
William  Head  M  54  Ag Lab  B.  Yorks, Wentworth
Mary  Wife  M  41                   B.  Yorks, Barnsley
Sarah  Dau  Un  18                B.  Yorks, Wentworth
Robert G  Son  17  Coal miner  B.   ~         ~

If you haven't got - do you want previous censuses for these two families ?
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: WORDSWORTH of Wortley
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 February 09 12:28 GMT (UK) »


Jill  ;)

Found them in 1901 census -  two more boys   :D

Index transcribed as Wardsworth, and Mence as Menco   :-\

1901
RG13.  P. 4336  Fol. 56  Pg. 15


Wharncliffe Gardens, Outibridge, Bradfield

WORDSWORTH
Mence  Head  M  33  Gen Labourer  B.  Yorks.  Hoyland
Ada  Wife  M  34                               B.  Yorks, Sheffield
Edgar  Son  12                                 B. Yorks. Bradfield
Frank  Son  10                                  B.  Yorks.  Sheffield
Fred  Son  4                                     B.     ~           ~
John  Son  2                                     B.  Yorks. Bradfield
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: WORDSWORTH of Wortley
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 February 09 13:04 GMT (UK) »

Is Mence a local name or can anyone suggest a derivation?


This is probably not a lot of help, but I cannot find any information regarding the use of Mence as a Christian name.  The nearest I can come up with is that Merce as a christian name is a variant of the name Mercer, which is most often used as a surname.  :-\

Maggie

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Re: WORDSWORTH of Wortley
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 February 09 13:33 GMT (UK) »


I can't find anything either  :-\   Several surnames Mence, no first  :-\

I only saw one other on the censuses, too - also in Yorkshire, lad born in 1890's.

Maybe the family went in for odd names -  although that does seem to be the only one  ::)
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: WORDSWORTH of Wortley
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 02:55 GMT (UK) »
Mum44 - Thank you, but I do have access to the UK Census.  Septimus WORDSWORTH and Sarah FLETCHER are probably the parents of Mence.

Mum44 and Maggie - I have searched for the name Mence and cannot find where it may have derived from - perhaps from someone's Surname?  Was hoping it might have been a local thing.

I may have believed it should have been Merce, except for it quite clearly being stated as Mence in Canadian records, several times.  Shall see what the Old Word brigade (in pipeline) has to say and let you know.

Thank you both for your help.  Jill



From Adelaide, South Australia, I am primarily interested in the WEBB family:
William - Tamworth STS, Melton Mowbray LEI
Mrs Sarah nee BINDLEY - Ealing MDX
William Thomas Bindley - South Australia
Allan - Calcutta, India
Edward Walter - Leamington WAR
Matthew - Paddington LND
Arthur Charles - South Australia
Sarah Frances - Bendigo VIC Australia
Francis - Macclesfield CHS
Mrs Charlotte HAMPSON - Doncaster YKS
George - Camberwell SRY
Charles - South Australia

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Re: WORDSWORTH of Wortley
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 August 13 22:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Jill,

If you are still interested in info regarding The Wordsworth's of Oughtibridge?

My Grandfather was Frank Wordsworth's younger brother, William Wordsworth born 1901.

He followed Frank out to Canada, but returned after a number of years and started a family in Sheffield.

Would be interested in any info you have regarding Frank and the Canadian branch of the family.

My mother is Jennifer Mary Wordsworth, William's daughter.

Many Thanks, Stuart McGregor

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Re: WORDSWORTH of Wortley
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 22:59 BST (UK) »
Yes, Stuart, I am still interested in the WORDSWORTH family in Canada - just back online after a long break.

However, I cannot add much more, yet.

Don't suppose you know where the name Mence came from?  Have you found it as a surname within the family - one of the wives?

Jill
From Adelaide, South Australia, I am primarily interested in the WEBB family:
William - Tamworth STS, Melton Mowbray LEI
Mrs Sarah nee BINDLEY - Ealing MDX
William Thomas Bindley - South Australia
Allan - Calcutta, India
Edward Walter - Leamington WAR
Matthew - Paddington LND
Arthur Charles - South Australia
Sarah Frances - Bendigo VIC Australia
Francis - Macclesfield CHS
Mrs Charlotte HAMPSON - Doncaster YKS
George - Camberwell SRY
Charles - South Australia