Marianne Caldwell/William Lionel Pyne

[heywood]

Anna Maria is mentioned in the other thread(s) of Justin's I am sure.
It is amazing that all this could be documented but not her first husband- you would think that he also would have left a will. 

[DebbieG]

This family is soo interesting,  I just get the feeling we ought to be able to see how it all fits,  but something is illuding us - back to Google, and Google books and the NA

 

Debbie

[heywood]

Charles Isham Caldwell married in 1887 to either Amy Mary A Garlick or Clara Kneebone. (no Charles Isham in censuses)

1891 RG12; Piece: 591; Folio 56; Page 33

Charles 'J' Caldwell b Brighton living with wife Clara and Francis son, living in Croydon, living on own means. Entry above is Richard Kneebone who is a retired Ironmonger.

1881 RG11; Piece: 1365; Folio: 40; Page: 74
possible for Charles Colwell - son of Alice - she is a widow and he is an apprentice in a factory  

Needless to say, I can't find much about this one either   found what may be the family in 1871 but again very ordinary! There are other children so you would wonder why Charles would be singled out. Not sure at all re the 1871 and 1881 but feel confident that 1891 is Charles.

[Hungry Pelican]

Hi Kath,  Yes, I agree.  He is "living on own means" in the 1901 census in Christchurch near Bournemouth with wife Clara and son Francis.  I notice George Caldwell's mother was an "Isham", but whose son is Charles?

[heywood]

Am trying to find out and getting very confused! Just refound Charles in 1891 when his year of birth is 1855 which wouldn't be in keeping with the will would it?
Will there ever be anything that is straightforward with this family 

[Hungry Pelican]

Marianne wrote in her 'Codicil' that Charles Isham was living with her in May 1883.

[heywood]

He only seems to appear in 1891 and 1901 - after his legacy!
It is as though there was a big black hole in Brighton into which all these children disappeared after birth  

[Hungry Pelican]

In the print out of the 1891 census they say 1855, but if you look at the original you will see his age is 26 not 36, which would make his birth 1864 as he wouldn't be 27 until July.

[Hungry Pelican]

Lol, and I'm beginning to think William Lionel Pyne is fictitious