Marianne Caldwell/William Lionel Pyne

[Hungry Pelican]

The occupation of William Lionel Pyne on the Marriage Certs. states "Gentleman".

[heywood]

well there you are- covers everything 

There are a few William Pyne deaths in and around Brighton in early 1840s which aren't of much help unless you can be more specific.

He doesn't appear here - have had a quick look

http://www.sussex-opc.org/Pigot1840/BrightonPigot1840.htm

[Hungry Pelican]

Thank you very much for your input.  I must get to bed now.  This genealogy is addictive!  

[heywood]

same here- goodnight!

[jorose]

There appears to also be the matter of Isabella Pyne/Caldwell. She married the Rev. Samuel Buxton Smyth in 1870 (his second marriage) under the name Isabella Pyne, and they are in East Hanningfield in 1871 (information from the other thread). I suppose her marriage certificate will just give the same, though...

She's visiting Ellen E. "Easton" in 1881 (actually Easson) - but she was nee Atkins. I had a quick look at the other visitors but couldn't see any connection there.

A look at the original christening records from Chelsea would be helpful as they should say what "John"'s occupation was.

I wonder if there's any connection to Isabella Deedes Pyne, b. 1 Dec 1828, chrs. 11 Aug 1829, St. James, Paddington, illegitimate daughter of Mary Ann Pyne?

Where did the marriage of George Caldwell and Mary Ann/Marianne Pyne take place in 1843?

[Hungry Pelican]

Hi,  Thanks for replying.

Marianne and George married in St. Peter's Church, Dublin, on 13th May 1843 - see the earlier threads:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,322249.15.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,271110.0.html

The last time I went to London to look at the Chelsea records, I couldn't find the entry!

That's interesting about Isabella Deedes Pyne, b 1828, as the birth date is nearer (she says she's 40 in the 1871 census), whereas the Isabella Caldwell living in Upton, Bucks with her mother, Marianne, gives her age as 25, making her born about 1836.

[heywood]

These are just thoughts/ coincidences etc

Family Search has submissions  for a Julia Pyne birth 1797 and marriage 1818 - St Peter's Dublin (where Marianne married George Caldwell)

In one census Marianne gives her place of birth as Marion Square Dublin (could this be Merrion Square?)

On other threads there is speculation if George Pyne is her brother. There are some references to him online e.g. http://home.planet.nl/~pdavis/Officers_EL.htm

Last night I looked on Google books but only found the odd reference to Rowena's marriage.

[heywood]

just spotted as I closed other thread down that Justin (?) has George Pyne's marriage certificate - I wonder who his father was and who the witnesses were?

[heywood]

hope I'm not being a nuisance with these snippets:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/newspaper/np_abst38.htm

think it's reporting a death in 1833 - Merrion Square Mrs Elizabeth Croker daughter of Arthur Pyne 

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=074-acc1429&cid=-1&Gsm=2008-06-18#-1
mentions a marriage settlement, I think, 1832- Maryanne Pyne but not sure I understand this.