Author Topic: Lost at sea  (Read 3426 times)

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,897
    • View Profile
Re: Lost at sea
« Reply #9 on: Monday 02 February 09 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi China & Sancti

John was alive in April 1857. He was the informant. 

Will be in touch with the cert. China :)

I have only found the death of a 14 year old before 1861 and a Marine death in 1868 - neither seem to fit as Catherine was definitely a widow on the 1861.


Gadget

Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877762.0

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,897
    • View Profile
Re: Lost at sea
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi China  :)

I notice that on the 1851, they have two interesting lodgers - Elisabeth Soutar, 27 and Archibald Soutar, 25 but born Lanarkshire. They're not coming up on my searches though  :(

John and Catherine married in Dundee in 1843 (Banns/Marriage 20 Feb 1843). The record says John Patterson, seaman and Catherine, daughter of  Wm* Soutar.


 I'll chase this up because the only record of a Catherine Soutar  that I can find b. Fowlis is 14 June 1820, Fowlis Wester. Parents - James Soutar and Margaret Ewan.


Gadget

* could possibly be Mr but more like the Ws on the page than the Ms
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877762.0

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,897
    • View Profile
Re: Lost at sea
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Catherine Patterson died 26 August 1877, St Andrew, Dundee.

Her parents were given as James Soutar, shoemaker, journeyman, deceased and Margaret, m.s. Ewing, deceased.

Her son, Alexander, was the informant.

John is listed as seaman (M.S) - I presume 'merchant service'

Still no where near finding John but it's a start  :)

Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877762.0

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,897
    • View Profile
Re: Lost at sea
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 11:29 GMT (UK) »
An interesting entry on the 1841:

Seagate, N(orth) S(ide), Dundee - 282 ED 17 Page  2

John Patterson, 25, Ship Carpenter
Jean Patterson, 27,
William Maxwell, 17, ap. draper

all b. Angus

No obvious match for this couple on the 1851.

Not sure if it is him but can't see anyone else who matches. He might have been at sea but no record is showing so far  :-\


Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877762.0


Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,897
    • View Profile
Re: Lost at sea
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 18:30 GMT (UK) »
China -

I've found what might be a John Patersen death  in the  GRO Marine Deaths Index 1855 - 1860. It's page 371. The writing is appalling so can't quite make out what the surname should be  ::)  Not sure how you can find out more. I assume you'd have to contact the GRO:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877762.0

Offline chinakay

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,553
  • Our housegoof
    • View Profile
Re: Lost at sea
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 21:14 GMT (UK) »
By gum, Gadget, you've been busy ;D I have been playing with the certs and the censuses. I did find the ship carpenter Patterson.

It's interesting that there doesn't seem to be any trend toward one spelling of the name or the other. In Canada it's fairly standard Paterson, but the Scottish records seem to be about 50/50.

Many thanks for all your help Gadget!

Cheers,
China
Moore/Paterson~Montreal
Moore/Addison~New Brunswick
Jubb/Kerr~Mirfield~Halifax~Moffatt
Williams~Dolwyddelan

King~Bedfordshire~Hull
Jenkins~Somerset
Sellers~Hull