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Boys Home in toronto Ont
« on: Saturday 31 January 09 00:29 GMT (UK) »
I'm came across some information that my great grandfather and his brother were apparently in a Boys home in Toronto. Apparently there is a book out but can only be seen in the big toronto library, cannot get it on interloan.. does anyone know of this boys home?? The names were Emalie Beggley and Alex Beggley, why they were there is beyond me??? thanks Karen

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Re: Boys Home in toronto Ont
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 January 09 01:06 GMT (UK) »
Karen, I can't help you with direct info but may I make two comments:

When did all this happen? have you an approximate date for the two boys being there?

If you emailed the Toronto Public Library and asked them the name of the book you believe they have and also asked them the full name of the Boys Home- and maybe its location you might then be able to pusue that.

I think people need more facts if they are going to be able to help with answers.

Good hunting,
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Re: Boys Home in toronto Ont
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 January 09 01:21 GMT (UK) »


Hi Karen !!

looks like you've had a bit of help already .... what else were you able to find out ??

http://boards.ancestry.it/topics.orphans.canada.general/37/mb.ashx

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Re: Boys Home in toronto Ont
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 January 09 01:27 GMT (UK) »

Is this the book ?? only thing is ... this one is American !!

http://www.goantiques.com/detail,135-years-church,1364379.html

135 Years of Caring...Episcopal Church Home for Children - Keith Lucas, Alan
Price: $11.95 USD 

Photos throughout. The first church supported home for children in South Carolina dating back to 1850. Located in York, South Carolina. 1st Edition. Illustrator= / Publisher=York, South Carolina Episcopal Church Home 1987

Were they British Home Children ?? .... have you checked 1901 census ?
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Re: Boys Home in toronto Ont
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 February 09 12:41 GMT (UK) »
hi
thanks for answering, but I think the home was call Toronto Boys Home and was located in toronto, and I found it on the 1901 census?? but the spelling is different, he his spealt as Emalie Beggley born Dec 10 1890, he was 10 years old when he was in there with  is brother Alex, now the interesting part is why would they be there??? there was 4or 5 other siblings at home??? Emile married my great grandmother in 1911.
I hope this is enough information?? I don't have a direct date of when they were in there and for how long??? all I found was the census that gave the first hint that they were in a boys home???
 The book is called -135 years of caring: the boys home 1859-1994, and there is only 1 book and its at the toronto public library.. again thanks for any help  Karen

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Re: Boys Home in toronto Ont
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 February 09 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Alexander died in 1900?  :-\ do you have the death information? & see that you do have all the marriages, then.
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.wentworth/481/mb.ashx?pnt=1
It could be the new husband might not have wanted the boys...do you have the rest of them in 1901...?
Do you have Anne as a Cormack, McCormack on a census?
Odd that the birdates of the boys on the 1901 are nowhere near the correct months or days

You may also want to check out a marriage to a Robert Black Young on *A*?

Full names of all family would surely help if the descendants ever come searching...

John Ernest Begley    m: Edith May Richards ( d. childbirth 1904)  ch: Edith Nellie Begley (  (d. 1904)  ) 
                                   m: Verna Viola Gimblett-  d.  Anna Rhoda Dorothy Begley & son Ernest
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=92669

                       
James Arch(ibald) Begley m: Margaret Goodsell

Annie Sophia Louisa Begley m: Norman Stanley Hickey

Isabella Sophia Begley   m. Percy George Bowles

Alexander (Charles?)  married Verna, John's 2nd wife...

Your Emile Andrew Begley
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Re: Boys Home in toronto Ont
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 February 09 00:34 GMT (UK) »
Annie as Cornock & marriage http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/york00.htm
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=11733&highlight=45
so I see your problem, why keep two boys and send off two....?

http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec190800mighuoft/torontodirec190800mighuoft_djvu.txt
Toronto City Directory for 1908 hasseveral  them all living/ or working near each other...
Begley Alexander C. app. 1 34 Hoskin ave
Miss Ann . . candy mkr. 1 31 Hoskin ave
BeKley Emile A. app Heintzman & Co. 1 Hoskin ave
?gley James A. Inther. 1 34 Hoskin av

actual images are here:
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec190800midiuoft


You may also want to check out a Viola Begly, marriage ( daughter of Alex Begley)

also check out 2 births & deaths after 1911 census...for an Alexander Bigley & a Nettie Biffin
and do you have the birth, death of a George for your Emile & Sarah & other rellies listed here:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch
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Re: Boys Home in toronto Ont
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 February 09 01:14 GMT (UK) »
 ::) Ah, knew I'd find something relevent to your request sooner or later...Perhaps the wee lads were having trouble
with the recent death of father and then marriage of their mother...( still way too young to institutionalize, but then that was the age of punishment...Now are the days of "toysRUS" which is the other dark side of the coin )

The Boys' Home of Toronto is a child care agency for young offenders and emotionally disturbed youths. The Home was established in 1859 by concerned citizens as a haven for the city's destitute and neglected boys.
http://ao.minisisinc.com/scripts/mwimain.dll/144/ARCH_DESC_FACT/FACTSDESC/REFD+F+831?SESSIONSEARCH
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Re: Boys Home in toronto Ont
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 February 09 01:33 GMT (UK) »
1903 http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec190300midiuoft/torontodirec190300midiuoft_djvu.txt
Coal Co Ltd    29. Begley Alexander, care taker
Begley Annie (wid James), h 54 Wood
" Harry fi. cook Mrs II L Benson, rnis


http://www.us.archive.org/GnuBook/?id=torontodirec191300midiuoft#453
1913 Toronto directory Emile is a piano maker like his brother John Ernest was when married!
Begley John E. - action fnshr. h 3S2 St Johns rd
"      Annie (wid John) - h 80 Trinity
"     * Archd - lab, h 91 Sackville
"      Emile - piano mkr  Heintzman & Co,  Ltd, 1 1969 Davenport rd
"      Miss Isabella - 1 500 Quebec av
"      James - mach Gas Co, h 75 Broadview  av
"       Miss Jennie - emp T Eaton Co, 1 80 Trinity
"       Rob - trastr, 1 98 Eastern av
"       Wm B -  lab Gooderham & Worts, 1

*Archibald Begley, a machinist in Toronto, was the son of John BEGLEY & Ann LITTLE
In 1904 he married  Violet BOWERING daughetr of Benjamin BOWERING & Charlotte STOWELL
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/tor04.htm

1919 Alex C & John E
1921 a dozen listed / 1922 Toronto similar Only  Begley Alexander C. a machinist 500 Quebec ave is listed...
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Might%20Directories%20Ltd.%22



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