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Re: Copyright Warning getting everywhere
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 01 February 09 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all for adding your comments & experiences.

As far as I can remember I've never tried to post anything that would break copyright, yet I'm all too familiar with the warning. My point is that this is a "cry wolf" action - as it comes up so often (just because I & others use a mouse button) we can all too easily become "blind" to it & ignore it all the time - even on the occasion when relevant.  To go back to my original post: -

Surely a message that pops up so often when irrelevant is likely to be ignored when it is relevant - to the detriment of RootsChat?

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Re: Copyright Warning getting everywhere
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 February 09 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Yes.  It was a long time before I found out that other methods of copy/paste worked, and it was only the right-click technique that was banned.  I do think that this information should be attached to the warning, if it is really necessary to have it. (No other site I am aware of seems to feel the need.)

I often compose a post on Word or Notepad, as it's frustrating to lose it if something goes wrong before you can actually submit.  All I was trying to do was post my own work, and I gave up several times before I eventually learned there was an alternative.
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Re: Copyright Warning getting everywhere
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02 February 09 07:50 GMT (UK) »
It is increasingly frustrating, as I used tabbed browsing...for which I want to right click on a link to open it in a new tab, but am of course getting a copyright warning every time I do - and I'm always forgetting the need to CTRL and click to open in a tab.
Given that you can copy and paste anyway without right-clicking, it's frankly a little silly that we're being battered with a copyright warning for trying to use a series of functions of our browsers...anyone who is going to break copyright is going to do it anyway (most likely using keyboard shortcuts), and all it's doing is frustrating those who want to use features that for the most part have nothing to do with copyright.
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Re: Copyright Warning getting everywhere
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 February 09 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the further responses - it's good to see I'm not the only one despite this:
At the moment, the problem you are having doesn't seem to be repeated for everyone.

Not being a programmer, I've no idea what would be involved in either removing the inappropriate warning or trying to focus it sensibly. Perhaps Copyright Editor would consider the matter, now that it's clear I'm not the only one?


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Re: Copyright Warning getting everywhere
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 February 09 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Not being a programmer either, I can only raise the question with those who own the site and who instigated the warning notice themselves - for their own protection. 

The site is privately owned and run and the owners do not wish to run the risk of a legal challenge over copyright issues if a user fails to take notice of all the warnings and guidance not to post copyright material.  If everyone were sensible, the Copyright team would not need to be here.

The warning notice appears because the software recognises that someone has used the right mouse button - usually a feature of cut and paste. 

The software is not perceptive enough to be able to mind read and know that user A has made a mistake and hit the wrong button, that user J is opening a new tab, or that user X is copying and pasting.


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Re: Copyright Warning getting everywhere
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 February 09 13:03 GMT (UK) »
I appreciate the need of site owners to protect themselves against infringement of copyright law, but disabling of the right mouse button seems to be much increased in recent times on a lot of sites. I find it really annoying, and more often than not will immediately navigate away from sites that use it. Many of us have become accustomed to using the right button menu for quickly navigating, opening links in new windows, etc.

We all know there are usually other ways to achieve the same result, so why do they bother  ???

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Re: Copyright Warning getting everywhere
« Reply #15 on: Monday 02 February 09 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Copyright Editor - thank you for your response.

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Not being a programmer either, I can only raise the question with those who own the site and who instigated the warning notice themselves - for their own protection. 

The site is privately owned and run and the owners do not wish to run the risk of a legal challenge over copyright issues if a user fails to take notice of all the warnings and guidance not to post copyright material.

I have no quibble with the need for the site-owners to be wary of any copyright infringement and have never suggested this.

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The warning notice appears because the software recognises that someone has used the right mouse button - usually a feature of cut and paste. 

The software is not perceptive enough to be able to mind read and know that user A has made a mistake and hit the wrong button, that user J is opening a new tab, or that user X is copying and pasting.

The software is also "not perceptive enough" to recognise that "copy and paste" can be achieved without recourse to a mouse button. If we are deemed to need such frequent reminders than perhaps we should get the message every time we post on any board (whether lookup type or not)- in case we're copying by some other method?

As I keep saying, to me the problem is that the message is creating a "cry wolf" pattern, in that by such frequent appearances it is routinely ignored and thus fails its purpose.

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If everyone were sensible, the Copyright team would not need to be here.
Equally I have no quibble with there being a Copyright team.


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