Frederick John Lancashire

[vlancashire]

looking for info on frederick john lancashire born 1812-1815 anybody out there that can help. he married caroline denham in1836, but do not have any other info for him.

[emilysiobhan]

Hi Vlancashire,

Welcome to Rootschat,

Did you look up your Lancashires on the IGI (at http://www.familysearch.org)? It doesn't seem to have anything that I could find on who Frederick Johns parents could be, but it has the christening of two of his sons, one who is also called Frederick John (b1839), and who then goes on to marry Eliza Ives and have a son who he calls Frederick John (b1860)
The Frederick John b. 1860 seems to be on the 1881 census (same website) living with his mother Eliza (widdowed) and some brothers and sisters at 11 Jane Place Southwark (RG11 0523/36 p.12).
If you are looking for your Frederick John's in earlier cenuses have you tried to find the birth certificates for the younger two Frederick Johns (1839 and 1860) as they are quite close to the census dates and so may give you the address the family are living at?
It should be possible to find these at either http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ or http://www.1837online.com/

This may be the death GRO ref for the middle Frederick John:
Deaths Jun 1878
LANCASHIRE    Frederick John    39    St. Saviour    1d   79  (from FreeBMD)

Hope this is some help to you,

Best Regards
Emily

[vlancashire]

thanks emily

I know of the 2nd FJ Lancashire. It is the Frederick John Lancashire born 1810-1815 I'm stuck on. Its his birth and parnets I'can't seem to find.
I know he was born in London probably the city.
He married Caroline Denham, I have the marriage cert but know clues  as to parents name.
Any idea's of where to look now.
thanks VL

[emilysiobhan]

Hi VL,

So his father isn't given on the marriage cert? I wonder if he knew who his father was? How do you know that he was born in London, do you have him on a census somewhere?
The marriage cert should have the addresses of the bride and groom at the times of their marriage?
You could try a post in the lookups section of those addresses to see if there were any Lancashires/Denhams living there in 1841as they would probably be relatives.
From the IGI he seems to have got married in Spitalfields ChristChurch Stepney...you could try a post asking if anyone might come across any Lancashires in Stepney in 1841..although you really need an exacter address as there is no index....if you could find him in a census you would at least have a better idea of where exactly he was born.
Do you have a birth cert for either of his sons (Frederick or Charles) as these should have an address on and help you to locate the family in a census.

Sorry I can't be more help, maybe someone else might have more ideas,

Emily

[Biker]

Hello

Unsure whether you're still looking for this information, but the 1861 census indicates his birthyear as 1815 and his birthplace quite clearly as Middlesex, Strand.  A Coach Painter living at 1 Spencer St South, St George in the East with Caroline and children.

If this might be your chap and you haven't already got this informtion, happy to post the full census details

Regards
Jonathan

[vlancashire]

Hi Jonathan

Fantasitic news and a great help. I checked the 1861 census but I could not find him. I would be very gratful if you could post the census details along with any family members living at that address. Sorry for delay in replying as only just got back from hols.
Thanking you in advance Vicki
Do you have access to any others pre 1861 details?

[Biker]

Hi

Sorry for the delay but I overlooked this one ...

1861 - 1 Spencer St South, St George in the East

Frederick Lancashire 46 Strand, Middlesex, England Head   Coach Painter
Caroline Lancashire 44 Marlboro, Wiltshire, England Wife 
Charles Lancashire 19 Blackfriars, Surrey, England Son 
Emily Lancashire 8 Thames St City, Surrey, England Daughter 
Henry Lancashire 16 Blackfriars, Surrey, England Son 
Sophia Lancashire 5 Deptford, Kent, England Daughter 
Walter Lancashire 13 Thames St City, Surrey, England Son 

Charles, Walter and Henry also Coach Painters

RG9/278
Folio:    129 
Page:    22

Jonathan

[vlancashire]

thanks Jonathan for this info.

Can you acess the 1851 census for this address?

vicki

[Biker]

Hello

I'm doing a bit of housekeeping and noticed this older request.  Wondering if you are still looking for anything on this topic or you have resolved it in the meantime?  If you're still looking, this might be a tough one to find so do you have any further info to add that might assist finding them?

If we don't hear from you in a while, I'll assume the latter and move it to the 'completed' section.

Regards
Biker