Help look up

[tay]

Hi
Please could you help me l am looking for two relatives and cannot find anything,

Thomas Bell ( Draper ) shows ( deceased ) on wedding cert of Matthew Dawson Bell and Lily Bate dated 1931 At Durham Register Office 1934 and also nothing on John Bate ( coal Miner ) ( deceased ) also on marriage certificate.

l have tried to find death certs with no luck. l really would like to start my family tree but l am lost, please if anyone can help l would be so grateful,

Tay

[JenB]

I see Matthew Dawson Bell was born 1903.

When was Thomas born?

Have you discounted all the various Thomas Bell deaths which show on freeBMD between 1904 and 1934?  http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

And ditto for John Bate?

Jennifer

[patrish]

We need more to go on Tay.

What was the age of Matthew and Lily on the marriage cert also  witnesses names help

We might then be able to trace Matthew especially back through the census records.

[tay]

Hi Everyone

l am so sorry and i even read the instructions i am so sorry

Matthew Dawson bell was born 25/12/ 1902 he was 28 on marg cert but he was reg  at chester-le-street 1903 His mother was Mary Bell formerly Dawson and his dad thomas Bell.

 l found Matthews death age 54 oct nov dec 1957, l think ?

Lily Bate was 23 when she married matthew which is 1911 l have know birth date for my grandmother  my family are not so forth coming??? lilys farther is John Bate.

so l am working blind at mo as l have had no help from family

thankyou

tay

[tay]

Oh sorry Witnesses are J.W Bailey and Hilda Bailey which l found was her sister

tay

[patrish]

Matthew Dawson bell was born 25/12/ 1902

Oh thats a pain we cant trace him in 1901.... I cant see a Thomas Bell either 

[patrish]

This is the family in 1901

Rg13/4677/69/11

67 Hamilton Road, Durham.

John Bate h.m 26 Coal Miner (Hewer)  b. Worcster, Dudley.
Margaret wife 22 b Durham
Hilda dau 5 mths b Waterhouses

[tay]

hi patrish

Thank you very much for your help.

on the marriage cert it shows number 40 Hamilton in 1934 do you think they moved up the road,
also this means john bate was born in 1875,

l dont seem to be able to find anything on Thomas Bell either and it shows he is a draper,

you are so helpful thank you very much

tay

[patrish]

on the marriage cert it shows number 40 Hamilton in 1934 do you think they moved up the road,

Yes Tay, this happend often as thier family expanded.

john bate was born in 1875,

I dont think the life expectancy of a miner in those day was very long due to the nature of the work and the conditions .

I cant find anything on Thomas in 1901 but he may be deceased as we dont know his age.

I also tried to find the Bate family in the new 1911 perhaps to narrow down his death but no joy..... I dont think all of this census is available yet though.