William STONE & Martha (unknown)

[tawyn]

I guess William may have died between the 1881 and 1891 census.

I may have an insight into the illegitimate son William and where he got to.
NONE of this has been verified yet by me.
One of my ancestors, later known as George William Iles b1855 Bath Somerset according to 1881-1901 censuses was a french polisher at the time of his marriage in 1874 in London.
The oral family history says that he changed his name to George William Iles after walking to London for work at about 15yrs of age. But we thought he'd changed his name from Stone to his mother's maiden name Iles.

I believe Lydia Iles was the mother of illegitimate William and she married William Stone 1857. Lydia perhaps died 1860 and it looks like he remarried after the 1861 census this time to Martha probably late 1861.

Hope this matches someone's research - our branch has been wondering for over 20yrs who George William Iles parents were!!

[Muffin41]

Thank you for your information  tawyn

If George William Iles was illegitimate I would say that he would have used his mothers surname.

I have a number of ancestors who where born before their mother married. Then they used the married name of the father which was easier for the family.

Muffin

[taffygirl]

Hello Muffin41,

William and Martha were my great grandparents. 

I am descended from their son Arthur George, AND their daughters Bessie and Ada Mary .... don't ask, it's complicated!  So you will realise that I have quite a few STONE genes running through my veins.

How are you connected to the family? 

Jan.

[Muffin41]

Hello Jan,

My connection to the STONE family is way of Alice Stone born 1882 in Melksham Wiltshire. The daughter of William Stone and Martha Chapman.

(In the meantime I have found out that her surname was CHAPMAN) I hope that I am correct there.

I have only entered Alice STONE in my family tree because she married Charles Edwin POW 1902 in Melksham. He was related to my family, also very confusing...........

Muffin

[taffygirl]

Hello Muffin,

(In the meantime I have found out that her surname was CHAPMAN) I hope that I am correct there.

I think you'll find that her surname was BROWN but I hope you have better luck than me in finding a marriage for her and William.  I've been looking for ten years and I actually think William and Lydia EYLES  must have never divorced - unless she died before William met Martha, but I have not found a death for Lydia either prior to William and Martha's first child being born, and the 1861 Census records William as 'M' (married) not 'W' (widower).  That could have either been a mistake, or Lydia was still alive somewhere.

I have only entered Alice STONE in my family tree because she married Charles Edwin POW 1902 in Melksham. He was related to my family, also very confusing...........

So I take it you are not a descendant of the STONE family?

My mother (now deceased) remembered "Charlie" and Alice Pow when she visited Trowbridge as a child. 

Jan.

[taffygirl]

Hello Muffin,

.......... the 1861 Census records William as 'M' (married) not 'W' (widower)

My apologies.  The Census doesn't actually use the letter 'M' to indicate William's marital status, it uses the "Do" symbol.  However, the meaning is the same - William was apparently married at the time of the Census.

Jan.

[Muffin41]

Hello Jan,

You are right, I am a descendant of the POW family.

I have found two children for Charles and Alice POW, Alice Blanche POW, born 1902 and Florence Maud POW, born 1904, both in Melksham.

Did Alice married a Percy CONNER, 1925 in Melksham Wilts
Did Florence married a James NAIRN, 1929 in Canterbury Kent

That is all the information that I have about this part of my family here.

Muffin

[tawyn]

I can see a death in http://www.freebmd.org.uk   for a Lydia Stone registered Jul-Sep 1860 Wellington Somerset which may possibly be her, although that is before the census showing "married" for William.

I too am struggling for a marriage to Martha.

Can I ask how 5yr old William is recorded in the 1861 census - is it son, step son, grandson or step grandson seeing as though they were probably with William's (snr) parents. And was he listed as Iles, Eyles or Stone?

[down-under]

hello

1871
 I have had another look at the census page. It is  Illigitimate son.


Pam