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Re: Burgess, Bala, Ontario 1901 onwards - Completed but still ongoing
« Reply #144 on: Thursday 23 July 09 15:48 BST (UK) »
I know what you mean...Coultart, Wilkinson, Kennedy, etc. It's just that she was the only one so named among her siblings. But we've already seen similar that before. As, Debbie said, Isabella Elliott is even referenced in the Burgess cemetery in Bala. I'll keep digging. 

http://www.mpsgg.com/Cemeteries/Muskoka/Wood001.htm

I see no Isabella Elliott. Is there another cemetery for them?


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Re: Burgess, Bala, Ontario 1901 onwards - Completed but still ongoing
« Reply #145 on: Thursday 23 July 09 15:59 BST (UK) »
The Burgess cemetery in Bala is a private cemetery. In terms of other cemeteries - no ideas.

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« Reply #146 on: Thursday 23 July 09 16:04 BST (UK) »
Yep - that's the link I gave and she's not mentioned there so how did Debbie see her name   ???

Just go look and see if you can see her listed!

added - other cemeteries in the area:

http://www.mpsgg.com/MuskokaCemeteries.html
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Re: Burgess, Bala, Ontario 1901 onwards - Completed but still ongoing
« Reply #147 on: Thursday 23 July 09 17:10 BST (UK) »
No mention of ELLIOT(T) in the cemetery and not in the doc that you propose. The following is from Debbie:

The grave of Isabelle Spence is linked with the Thomas Burgess born in 1866, not the father.  However there is a discrepancy between the date of birth on the headstone and census and marriage records as well as her death record. 

There is a submitted LDS file for Isabella Spence Elliott which references the above cemetery.  They have her father as Peter Elliot and spouse as Thomas Burgess and they use the 13 July 1889 wedding date in York.  The wedding references Peter and Mary Elliott.  There is a family living in Albermarle, Bruce North in 1881 consisting of Peter(47), Mary(36), Elizabeth(18) and Julia(8 ).  I haven't found them in 1871 to see if they have an Isabelle with them.

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Re: Burgess, Bala, Ontario 1901 onwards - Completed but still ongoing
« Reply #148 on: Thursday 23 July 09 17:15 BST (UK) »
I have always taken the Isabella Spence one to be Isabella Spence McTavish who married Thomas, jnr. 

Dates on headstones can be variable. Our common ancestor, Jean Spalding, is listed on the headstone as aged 86 or 87 in 1817 (from memory). She had her daughter, Jean, in 1793. Work it out - it's impossible. We decided that the mason had carved the figures wrongly or that daughter Mary, who had the stone erected in the 1830s, had worked out what her mother's age was at that time.  Jean was definitely Jean's daughter!

I haven't got Isabella McTavish's death date to a hand at the moment - when did she die?


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« Reply #149 on: Thursday 23 July 09 17:20 BST (UK) »
Note that on the marriage entry she is recorded as Belle Elliot(t). No middle name - this need not necessarily mean isabel/lla but Annabelle for example or just Belle.

I do not trust IGI submitted records at all unless substantiated with factual information.


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Re: Burgess, Bala, Ontario 1901 onwards - Completed but still ongoing
« Reply #150 on: Thursday 23 July 09 17:25 BST (UK) »
I've always thought of Isabella Spence (b. 10 Feb. 1869 - d. Jan. 1921) as Isabella Spence McTavish. I don't know where she was born although Peel County is a guess. I imagne that she died in Bala.

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« Reply #151 on: Thursday 23 July 09 17:31 BST (UK) »
She was on that photo that you sent - when was that taken? I'm not finding a death for her at the moment but the Ontario deaths only go to 1934.

Alexander was on it as well so it was before August 1928
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« Reply #152 on: Thursday 23 July 09 17:33 BST (UK) »
Here we are - her death

Isabel Spence Burgess   - transcribed as Burgers  ::)
17 Jan 1921, Muskoka

birth date - approx 1869 in Bolton, Ontario
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