McMinn Mystery Deepens...

[andycand]

Hi

According to the 1881 census of 4 Catherine Square, George Patrick was born in 1841 so seems a bit young to be sponsor, could he have a father of the same name? I'll have a look at earlier censuses when I get a chance.

Andy

[heywood]

I was just thinking the same myself Andy but couldn't quite remember Elizabeth's year of birth (shame on me) and knew that when I looked the other day there is another George Patrick in 1881.
He is born Dublin  1820 and is a shoemaker.

[heywood]

The shoemaker may well be a red herring and is best forgotten for the time being.

However, having confirmed that I was right in my mind with an 1855 birth for Elizabeth, George could have been old enough I suppose- around 14 yrs of age to be a godparent.- who knows.

Somewhere on here we have found George's wife in 1871 - just found who I believe is George!
I'm posting it - just because I like the entry.

1871 RG10; Piece: 1020; Folio: 23; Page: 39
School of Musketry, Hythe

added: and as noted earlier George is born Clonmel.

George Patrick married 30 yrs Private Soldier 2nd Battalion 3rd Regiment b Ireland
now why can't anything else be that specific 

[Daisy Loo]

Sorry Kath... ...I should be getting the MC next week anyway   Will be back on it then.

But...yes, Informant sponsor....not being RC, I just put informant, but the box was for Informant/Sponsor

So we are saying that this is the same George Patrick then...

I might have a look see  and see if I can find a baptism for George Patrick in Clonmel then.

Great find Kath...and yes, wouldn't it be wonderful if everything was so clear!

You know what though, I have been thinking about this whole scenario, and I think we are lucky (well I am!) to have found out the information that we have.  The early 1850's were just after the Famine, and there was huge emmigration from Ireland to England.  So to find such a complete picture as we have so far in really incredible.

And I owe so much to all you guys, so let me say another

THANKYOU!

[heywood]

Marty- you can tell we all just love it don't we 

I know you'll keep us posted - enjoy the week with those gorgeous children 

Kath

[Daisy Loo]

Humph!

Got the MC today.  I will scan it later, as there are a few bits that seem to be unclear...but, pretty much useless for what I wanted it for!!!

Date: 02.06.1846 / Alexander McMinn / Full age  / Bachelor / Gunner & Driver RA / Residence: Clonmel / Father: Alexander McMinn / Occupation of father: Mason (?)

Bridget Clarey / what looks like 18 / Spinster / Residence: Clonmel / Father: James Clarey / Occupation: Cattle dealer

Married in the Scots Church. Clonmel, (Presbyterian Church) "in ((arrow up) by licence) ?

Witnesses: Francis ?illey & James Smith

My worse case scenario, Alexander is at full age:  BUT his occupation is a GUNNER.  And those papers, did he not retire 2 years later?  There is no way that in two years he would have been promoted to Sgt Major...I am sure!

So...any thing further anyone can offer?  Where do I go from here?

[heywood]

Hello Marty - nice to hear from you! How disappointing though 

Maybe there are 2 Alexanders and at least though you know that this must be the one you want.
I think you said you had also ordered the marriage certificate of Matilda and the birth of Alexander Philip so I suppose when they arrive, all the info can be collated (again) and compared.
good luck and cheers
Kath

[Daisy Loo]

Okay...have scanned the MC.

Kath, it appears that Alexander McMinn doesn't seem to be that unusual a name, but I think there was only one at the time in Clonmel.

Below, find the age...(please can someone confirm the age of bridget) and the "by licence" can anyone confirm the word after the "by licence" ?

[andycand]

Hi Daisy Loo

"in Ireland"? I think

Andy