McMinn Mystery Deepens...

[MonicaL]

Wow, so we also had the right potential death for Bridget in 1893 Woolwich, that's great work Dimps 

John Thomas Wilder  , who he ?!!

Could they have shared a grave?

Added: this looks to be John's death: Deaths 2nd Qrt 1864  John Thomas Wilder at Greenwich, 1d/454

[Daisy Loo]

I don't know about grave sharing...I just posted that very question in the common room!  It'll probably be moved!  Oh well done for finding the death of him.


It seems strange though...if the McMinn family came over after 1971...then how would they have agreed to be buried iwth this guy, who was already dead???



Monica, welcome back, I;ve missed you

[MonicaL]

  What a difference in a week since I left, positively balmy in London tonight!

Not sure if the Wilder name will necessarily mean anything Marty. Still of a mind of sharing a grave here! There is a John Wilder, aged 59, and John Jnr, 22, showing in Woolwich in 1861. John Snr a bookmaker, son a carter both born London/Kent. I can see John Jnr in 1881 boarding in Woolwich, an auctioneer's porter...so, maybe father's death in 1864?

Added: Yep, looks v. likely it is the same one. He shows as John T. Wilder in 1851 (HO107; Piece: 1589; Folio: 114; Page: 1)

[Daisy Loo]

"There are Purchased Graves where the applicant purchases the Exclusive Right of Burial in this grave, effectively forming a private grave and giving the family of the deceased control of any future burials in that grave. The owner of the Right must give written permission before any burial can take place in a purchased grave. The Exclusive Right has a fixed term - usually 100 years after which time control of the grave is returned to the relevant authority.
Un-purchased Graves are also known as 'Common' or 'Public' graves. The relevant authority retains control of the burials in these graves. Burial Law used to require a 14 year interval between successive burials in one of these graves, (unless the deceased were from the same family), but this law has since been repealed.
1864-1878 = 14years
Stan " - Stanmapstone's answer in the Common room....seems to make sense.  I guess a lot of these people wouldn't have afforded a private grave, I'm sure.

[heywood]

Hello you two!

I think John snr is a bootmaker (not bookmaker). I would imagine that they just shared the grave - perhaps cheaper?

[MonicaL]

You're right Kath, re John Wilder, he shows as a cordwainer in 1851 

How did Dimps find Alexander and Bridget's details I wonder? Clever girl!

[heywood]

Perhaps she went to the office 

Or like we have probably all done at some time- tramped around

[MonicaL]

Well, however you found it Dimps, I think you deserve a gold genealogy star 

I always get quite an emotional moment when we've searched good and hard for someone and finally there is a resting place for them. Who would have thought Marty many yonks ago when you first started on Elizabeth's origins that Alexander's gravestone would be found....

[heywood]

and still there which is fantastic!