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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #162 on: Monday 16 February 09 17:31 GMT (UK) »
Good news Marty - another bit chipped away.

It doesn't say where she was born? That could still be Ireland? Do you think? Or Woolwich prior to discharge?

Were Army births not registered in the normal way - not that this matters as you have the birth anyway  ::)
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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #163 on: Monday 16 February 09 18:15 GMT (UK) »
I don't know, it's odd...it doesn't say where she was born, only where she was baptised, over a month after birth.  She was baptised in Woolwich, but you'd think that perhaps she was born abroad/at sea...otherwise if she was born either in England or Ireland, her birth would have been registered in the normal way.

That might be discovered, if I manage to find out any more regarding his movements as a soldier.

However, I'd say that pretty much wraps up the thread doesn't it?  I know we're looking for Alexander's family, so maybe not.

Scriment has come up with some very good ideas for searches at the TNA...so we'll see :)
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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #164 on: Monday 16 February 09 18:18 GMT (UK) »
You (we) have achieved so much! It's been so interesting.

Please keep up posted with any new revelations.

Love and good wishes
Kath
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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #165 on: Monday 16 February 09 18:40 GMT (UK) »
I don't know, it's odd...it doesn't say where she was born, only where she was baptised, over a month after birth.  She was baptised in Woolwich, but you'd think that perhaps she was born abroad/at sea...otherwise if she was born either in England or Ireland, her birth would have been registered in the normal way.

That might be discovered, if I manage to find out any more regarding his movements as a soldier.
Keep in mind that civil registration of births in Ireland only started in 1864.
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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #166 on: Monday 16 February 09 20:39 GMT (UK) »
I don't know, it's odd...it doesn't say where she was born, only where she was baptised, over a month after birth.  She was baptised in Woolwich, but you'd think that perhaps she was born abroad/at sea...otherwise if she was born either in England or Ireland, her birth would have been registered in the normal way.

That might be discovered, if I manage to find out any more regarding his movements as a soldier.
Keep in mind that civil registration of births in Ireland only started in 1864.

Hello :)  Yes, but I have found baptisms for all (well, all we could find) seven of the other kids, born in Ireland, and baptised there, from 1855 onwards. 

Alexander did serve in Gibraltar, so it is possible I suppose that she was born out there, isn't it?

Added: Even though it appears from this birth reg, that Isabella was baptised in Woolwich, she was baptised again, in 1857, in Clonmel  :o  Figure the mother must have been a staunch Roman Catholic!
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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #167 on: Monday 16 February 09 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Regarding the 1849 record- you already have the baptismal record but mentioned trying to find a birth record which is why I mentioned Irish records. Of course it's entirely possible she was born somewhere besides England or Ireland.
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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #168 on: Monday 16 February 09 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Marty from 'nearly' Sunny Spain  :)

I would have thought it unlikely that young Isabella born c. 1849 would have been baptised twice, more likely the first Isabella died and another daughter born c. 1857 was given this name and it is this second daughter's baptism that we are picking up in Clonmel perhaps?

Monica
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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #169 on: Monday 16 February 09 20:57 GMT (UK) »
lol @ Monica....you just can't keep away!

Aghadowey...  What arrived today, was what we found listed on the Regimental Births.., I thought it was going to give details of where she was born, but it relates more to her baptism in Woolwich.

The baptism record I have in Ireland, I had already...but (Monica, this is in answer to your point as well) there was a notation on the record, that said she was an adult...(I believe that means someone who has been confirmed)...and the date for this was 1857, only 3 months after her younger sister was baptised.  In 1864, Isabella appears as the "Sponsor" on another baptism record, which, if she was born in 1857, this would have made her only 7 years old...but if her birth was 1849, shewould have been 17, and well able to be an informant.

Hope that all makes sense!

Monica, are you online for a while? 
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Re: McMinn Mystery Deepens...
« Reply #170 on: Monday 16 February 09 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Back now for a little bit...the children have tired me out today  ;D

Does make sense now Marty, you've reminded me of some of the comments you posted when you first read/posted the christening details some weeks ago.

Monica 
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