McMinn Mystery Deepens...

[Daisy Loo]

Have just blown a bit of money looking for caroline on the 1911 census...nothing really substantial showed up.

I don't think there was any too'ing and fro'ing...especially if both Alexander & Bridget came over, as we now know that they did.

I think we have all of them, apart from Isabella & Caroline, we have Matilda, George, Alexander, Elizabeth & Emily Jane.

I do think there is a strong possibility that there may be more children, but that will have to wait until I get more info out of the parish church in Clonmel.

[Daisy Loo]

I did check that out Monica, I don't know how many records they have, but they aren't online, they are held at Kent County Services, in Maidstone, so that will be one of the places that I'll be visiting.  I think they hold birth records for the workhouses, and Gravesend was definatley listed.

Yes, I'm hoping that more will come out.

I still haven't got the TNA records, which has surprised me, as I have certs that I ordered after already...should I chase them, or do they normally take a long time?

I think chasing after Bridget & Alexander is another story altogether, and one I have to decide when and if.  The siblings are all pretty much done, apart from Isabella & Caroline...

[MonicaL]

This might help: www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Gravesend/Gravesend.shtml

There is a contact at the bottom regarding Records, is this the one you saw:

    * Centre for Kentish Studies, Sessions House, County Hall, Maidstone, Kent, ME14 1XQ. Holdings include: Guardians' minutes (1835-1930); Births (1848-1913); Deaths (1871-1914); Creed registers (1924-39); Children's home superintendent's journal (1899-1916); etc.

I would put a call into TNA and double check your request has not been mislaid, seems a long time now.

Monica

[Daisy Loo]

Yes, that's it.  I'll ring them in a while.

Have just done a search for Alexander or a Philip b. 1876 Gravesend, on the 1911 census, still nothing shows up 

[Daisy Loo]

I got the TNA records today, and Monica, I am convinced we have the right ones.

I have posted 4 parts of the document in the new board Artefacts or something, and I am sure there, on the "final description" is Clonmel Bks....but am not 100%.  I posted them there to get independant opinions from people who don't know the story, and so don't know what they looking for

thing is, being a new board, it isn't getting half the traffic the common room gets

[MonicaL]

  Wasn't aware of this board...I'll have a look now.

Monica

Clonmel Barracks to me    let's see what everyone else thinks  Do you see what I mean about the writing, off microfilm with colours reversed is even harder to read in places.

It would be interesting to see whether any of the references on Part 4 actually mean anything in respect of Regiment. It also looks like on his conduct sheet, his years in Gibraltar may have been at least in the early 1840s....when he kept on being told off and reprimanded 

[heywood]

Hi Marty,

as Monica says - I can see he was a bit of a naughty boy but thankfully his conduct improved.

2) refers to his ailments - rheumatic related since 1841 in Gibraltar. Had something in hips and legs ever since.
3) The medical officer at Woolwich, 8 March 1850
 "After a careful examination I am of the opinion that Alexander McMinn is unfit for service ........ to be permanently disqualified for Military duty but that he is able to contribute something towards his livelihood".
4) G59981 Increased to 1/7 1/2 (One shilling and seven and a half pence) 15/11/70
H 17680 Inc.A44 * not entitled to increase 7 enclosures returned arrests ....... ret to information afforded to govt .... Clonmel Bks during  Fenian riots 13.10.76

what do you think? I have not been able to decipher some bits of it but that's what it looks like!

[MonicaL]

Good eyes Kath 

Does that mean that at least Alexander was in Clonmel in 1876 ? We know a number of the girls were over in London by this time. I was curious about what the Fenian Riots were - http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/STUDENTS/LoveBrad/fenian.htm

How does someone retired in 1850 due to ill health after c. 22 years in service end up (Staff) sergeant major I wonder some years later...

[heywood]

still thinking about that - the other posts have been moved to Armed Forces