Thanks for that Natterjack, William b 1807 is definitely the same person as my William, my husbands ancestor. I have a medal he won for brewing at Princes End Brewery so there's no doubt there. I have different parents though, James Whitehouse And Mary Harper. I may have been swayed by research that my father in law did though so I'll look at that further. It's a long time since I did much research on this. Would love to hear what information you have.