George Wilfred Frederick Shepherd

[LucyLockett]

I hope this works... scanned marriage certificate as requested...

In addition, I did find an Elizabeth Mortimer in 1901 in Croydon at a blind school but she had a different middle name. I suppose this could have been an error on the part of the person filling out the census? Think school may have been a charity school ... it was called the Normal school for music and something else. Elizabeth must have had a very good education to have been able to write books in braille. Her family were certainly not from money. Have a look at the census and let me know what you think.... she would have been 16.

Thanks


Moderator Comment: Please do not scan & post whole certificates as these are Crown Copyright. Small portion allowed to see if others can identify the groom's occupation

[LucyLockett]

I've just found the Elizabeth Shaw marriage myself - 1887 as you say - raising the possibility that Elizabeth brought Fred into the marriage and he wasn't born a Shepherd at all...

Hi Anna, did you manage to find out anything more on this? I have just come to a brick wall... do u think I should order the certificate for frederick george sheppard islington Q1 1884?? I dont have much confidence about what Im doing at the min and seem to have lost the thread.

tks

[LucyLockett]

Vicky

I was rather hoping that you could post a small section of the cert here,so we could look at the chair carrier...........and try and make sense of it.


It is likely he was doing that job in 1901 and it might make it easier toi track him down.

I too have been searching the 1901 high and low for Elizabeth but can't see her anywhere. You say she was blind from birth,and yet the 1891 census doesn't mention it.

Oh and no luck with Grace and/or William Hewitt/Hewett either I'm afraid.

Hmmmmm 

Carol

What did u think to the certificate?? can you make out the occupation of george?? Just absolutely stuck in front of a brickwall and have no idea what direction to go?? if you were me would you go for the birth certificate of frederick george sheppard Q1 1884 Islington??

Tk u 

[carol8353]

Ahhh I have just discovered something 

At 14 Georgina Gardens in 1901 lived a Hewett family ,with a 22 year old Grace.
The dad was a porter in a city office. Unfortunately it doesn't give an occupation for Grace,but I bet she was a friend of Elizabeth's and that's why they used that address to marry from!

They only needed to have been there for 3 weeks whilst the banns were read.

Is there any chance you can post just a small part of the cert- the bit that says his job....but slightly enlarged- it is REALLY difficult to read isn't it.
I believe you are contravening copyright laws by posting the whole cert...even if it is sidewards 

Possibly others may come online later this evening who can make more sense of the job.Which I think should say Chair Caner.....cos that's often the job that blind people did.........and still do.

Carol

Carol

[carol8353]

I have now followed Grace Hewett's parents James and Mary back and found their marriage in Lincoln in 1879.

She used to be Mary Jane Smith 

Sooooo could the families have been related and Grace was someone's cousin?

I'm sure the surname Smith comes into things earlier in this thread?

Carol

[LucyLockett]

Carol you are fab!!! Point taken, i will try and enlarge the small part of the certificate and try and just post part of it and delete the certificate i have posted.... the bit with the occupation. I will need to do it at work tomorrow so watch this space. Any ideas yet of the birth cert for George / Fred???
chat tomorrow
Vicky

[Valda]

Despite an incorrect second name it does look a likely candidate for Elizabeth on the 1901 census

RG13 652 folio 202
Royal Normal College and Academy of Music for the Blind Upper Norwood Croydon
Elizabeth Anne Mortimer Pupil Single 16 Student London Blind from Childhood

You can find records for the Royal Normal College and Academy of Music for the Blind at the London Metropolitan Archives which include scholarship and beneficaries records from Gardner's Trust for the Blind, so you might be able to find out quite a lot about Elizabeth.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O53177

There is no indication that Frederick had a disability on the 1901 census (as already stated by Anna)

RG13 159 folio 58
74 Hampden Road Islington
Edward Shepard 48 Head Married  Dustman Oxford Oxfordshire
Elizabeth Shepard 38 Wife Married Islington London
Frederick Shepard 16 Son General Labourer Islington London
Edward Shepard 12 Son Islington London
John Shepard 10 Son Islington London
William Shepard 4 Son Islington London 
Harriett Shepard 4 months Daughter Islington London

Regards

Valda

[LucyLockett]

Hi Valda,
Thanks for the information...... think Elizabeth could be quite interesting. She must have had a good education to have been a book writer and I know she was blind. Her family certainly did not have money so the info seems to feet.

Do you have any idea about George Wilfred Frederick Shepherd's birth? I think he must have been the offspring of a second wife and perhaps Elizabeth Shaw was a third wife or he was her child but can find no birth record for him. I am at a brick wall for his birth.... after looking at the information I have provided do you have any ideas??
Thanks

[Valda]

Repeating my previous post

'Have you discounted this birth registration?

Births Mar 1884   
Sheppard  Frederick George     Islington  1b 251'

Regards

Valda