Baptism - George COOPER c1881 Iver Heath

[wookietoo]

ok, just paid (yet again!) to view the transcript.
It shows her as born Southwark.
Mine was born Westminster....next door.
I don't know whether this is good or bad............

[Necromancer]

The 'Grandparents in 1901 ... note the address links well with the 1911 find you mentioned ...

1901 - RG13; Piece: 516; Folio: 74; Page: 27 - Camberwell, St George
283, Albany Rd

 
George Cooper 43  Head Butcher & Scalesman born Warwick
Eliza Cooper 39  Wife born Middx, Hayes
George Cooper 18  son General Labourer Southall
Ellen Eliza Cooper 16  dau Hat Hand Fancy Work do
Thomas Cooper 13  son London City
Elizabeth Ann Cooper 10  dau Camberwell
Henry Harrold Cooper 9  son do
Florence Bertha Cooper 7  dau do
Edith Elsie Cooper 5  dau do
Alice Beatrice Cooper 2  dau do
Amy Blanchie Cooper 1  dau do



Soooooo, either your George changed jobs from 1901 to 1902 and got into the Railways - and aslo said his Dad did ...

OR ... the George Henry you found with this family in 1911 isnt the right lad ?


You say you couldnt find George the shunter in 1911 ?

[wookietoo]

Yes, I found this family, and I don't think shunter was a skilled job, so yes he could have chnaged....by 1904 he is a railway porter.
His age isn't right to be 21 in 1902 (unless you didn't have to produce a birth cert to marry).....
I just looked up the address where George 1904 was born - and it is in Walworth, the same as the lad I have found in 1911.

None of it fits with the family legend though.

[Necromancer]

staying focused on the George that married in 1902 ...


If you search the free Index in the 'official' 1901 census -

http://www.1901censusonline.com/search.asp?wci=person_search&page=search&searchtype=1&


you can see all Georges born for example 1875 to 1885 with occupation - all in the Greater London area.

The only Railway related job out of 73 candidates is a Detective .....

If 'young' George born Walworth, is the only candidate found in 1911, the I guess thats it.


So where was George the shunter/porter in 1911, and what PoB does he show ?


PS. Just to put Iver to bed - the George born 1865, Iver is married to a Mary in Fulmer in 1901, with a 2 year old George in tow .... George snr is a Gardener ....

[Necromancer]

Looks like some elimination to be done if your chap was registered as George Henry .....


Births Mar 1904    

Cooper  George Henry     St. Geo. H. Sq.  v1a p486   


Births Dec 1904 
 
COOPER  George Henry     Southwark  v1d p70   


Births Sep 1905   
 
Cooper  George Henry     Southwark  v1d p26

[Necromancer]

is this Maisie ? ( Maisie is usually a diminutive form of Margaret ? )

Births Mar 1905  
 
Cooper  Margaret     Camberwell  v1d p938


note mothers maiden name appears in Index post 1911 - seems a big gap ?

Births Sep 1917   
 
Cooper  Eileen  Apthorpe  Camberwell  v1d p1129

[wookietoo]

Looks like some elimination to be done if your chap was registered as George Henry .....

Now you are really tying me up in knots as this part of the research was done a couple of years ago and I can't remember the full details. I gave up, waiting for the 1911 to come out!
I know I got several birth certs at the time.....

From memory I was looking for one married to Sophia or Sophie as she was known as Granma Sophie to somebody in the family I think.

I have a photo of his grave, died 7th Sept 1977 aged 73

[wookietoo]

Births Sep 1917   
 
Cooper  Eileen  Apthorpe  Camberwell  v1d p1129

Oh God YES!
There was a sister Eileen, I had her as c1915

[Necromancer]

what do you think about the Margaret I added in above ?