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Weaste Cemetery
« on: Wednesday 21 January 09 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Would any kind person be going to Weaste Cemetery for a look up?  If they were, I'd really love someone to look for my gggrandfather's grave.  I don't know if I have enough information though.

I don't have a map, but I do have the number and the details from the grave papers.

It's burial no.3047  Only thing is I wrote the ref. with my left hand when the other one was injured.  It's Plot C26 or possibly C2c.  I'm hoping only one of these will make sense.

He's Gurney Patmore and the others buried with him arre children and grandchildren of his.

I know there may not be a stone, but I'd still love a photo of where it is, and the others round it and my older relatives would love to know what state it's in.

Don't worry if the weather's too bad or I haven't given you enough information.  But just on the offchance!

Thank you for reading. 

Best wishes

Emms
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Re: Weaste Cemetery
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Emms, i don't go over that side of town much but if you get no offers i will try and find the grave for you. I will send you a map of the cemetery. I am sure you will be over run with offer after all the kind look ups you do for people on here, but if you don't get any takers in the next week give me a pm and only to willing.
Migky  ;)


ps will need to know what religion you think they were ?

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Re: Weaste Cemetery
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Migky

What a star!  Instant response - and the map too!  Thank you for the kind comments  - not sure totally deserved but I do try!

Thank you for your offer too.  I know you do loads of look ups for people too.  Actually it's not as straight forward as I thought when I look at the map.

I've slipped up too.  That's actually a grave number if I've copied it down correctly originally , not a burial number - whuch makes sense, as there are six burials.  I'll see if I can check that.

Religion?  Well that's a really big question!m  Most likely Catholic or C of E.  I'll type the full story - or some of it! - later and also pm you.

Thank you again.

Emms
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Re: Weaste Cemetery
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi and again!

Right, back to the rest of your question Mgky!

I have never found a baptism for Gurney. 

His father was widely billed as being agnostic and againsnst religion.  His mother was Scottish and of a very religious .  I can't remember of which denomination but very strict - Church of Scotland or a Scottish Nonconformist group.

There are baptisms around London for his sister and older brother inthe Church of England but I've not found them for Gurney and his other brother.

After his father lost money and had debts on the railway, he and his brother were left to make their own way, and worked up in the world of letters.  He eventuaally had editorshiops on the Derby Mercury and after ma4rrying a Derbt girl he went to the Argus in Australia.

Five children were baptised in the church of England.

Now another mystery.  He came back to Salford and stayed there and Essex and the four boys were rebaptised Catholics.  We have no evidence of conversion for Gurney though - or his wife or daughter and the youngest daughter born in this country was baptised Church of England.

She by 1911 is working in a convent and I think from what people remember she was a Catholic.

The older brother had already converted - another long story to catholicism.

You would ask!

The son who brought the grave was definitely a catholic, but we're surprised if this is the case that the grave is not at Moston.

So we think it could be either!  I've a couple of obituaries but no clue.

I wonder if the boys converted because the older brother who was a Catholic helped out and possibly got places at a Catholic school for them.  Maybe he wouldn't convert, maybe because his wife wouldn't?  She died soon after the return.

So really, I'm not sure.  Every bit of evidence another big mystery!

Thank you again for all your efforts.

Best wishes

Emms
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

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1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

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Re: Weaste Cemetery
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 January 09 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Gee! now tottally confused  :-\
Right are you now saying you don't know if it is Weaste Salford or ST.Joseph's Moston ?

First of all as you have the name of the person and the grave number, why not contact the cemeteries. and ask them to check what details you have?
Weaste records are at   Agecroft Cemetery Office
Langley Road
Swinton
Salford
Manchester
M27 8SS
Telephone0161-736 2512 
Emailagecroft.cemetery(at)salford.gov.uk

And Moston's

St. Joseph's Catholic Cemetery.
Moston Lane
Moston
Manchester M40 9QL
Tel: 0161 681 1582
Fax: 0161 682 8352

Once you find out which it is , let me know.
Migky  ;)

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Re: Weaste Cemetery
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 January 09 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Emms

If it is St Josephs you will need the section letter or name, this cemetery is all catholic but has something like 22 seperate plot locations.

Migky

If you end up going to Weaste give us a shout I will tag along with you.

Regards
Ken 
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Re: Weaste Cemetery
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 January 09 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Just to add my bit, if you do need someone to check out Weaste I can do it Sunday or Monday for you, just let me know all the details!

Heather :)
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Re: Weaste Cemetery
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 January 09 17:34 GMT (UK) »
I can go to Weaste as well, but would be the same days as heather - hey maybe we should meet there anyway heather?????
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Re: Weaste Cemetery
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 January 09 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I remember nearly 20 years ago the Manchester and Lancashire Family History Society were doing the Monumental inscription recording for Weaste, or they had already done it.  It might be worth asking them about it.
Middlesex: Hawkes; Hatton; Lee (gypsies); Vincent; Fenwick; Hale; Killingback;
Buckingham: Hawkes; Haddock; Sills;
Cheshire: Broady; Ford; Hughes; Spencer; Johnson; Hewitt; Britland;Darlington; Wilkinson;Snelson;Kirkham; Percival
Lancashire: Ridgway (Chowbent); Dootson; Hope.
Yorkshire: Lumb; Normanton; Ainley; Trafford.
Lincolnshire: Trafford; Capps; Willey; Twidle; Bett;
Saxe-Coburg: Muller/Miller.