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Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« on: Wednesday 21 January 09 16:43 GMT (UK) »
This was one of my uncles who went to Peru before WW1 & worked on the railways.  A suggestion from Erato to Lydart was that, as an Englishman, he may have joined the Lima cricket club, so we have sent them an E-mail  Has anyone any other idea?. 

                Pyewacket.


Here is the link to my previous enquiry about another Kidwell uncle ...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,354036.msg2317910.html#msg2317910
Glam: Ace, Jenkins, Matthews, Oldham, Sanders, Thomas, Williams
Carms: David, Oldham, William
Devon & Liverpool: Kidwell
Devon: Luttrell, Slowly, Blackmore, Symons, Ley, Burman
Westmoreland: Parkin, Harrison, Atkinson

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Re: Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 16:56 GMT (UK) »
The two main railroads were/are:  Arequipa-Cuzco-Puno and Lima-Oroyo-Huancayo, so it is likely that his base was either Lima or Arequipa.  Have you tried contacting the British embassy in Lima?  Also the British consulate [I'm assuming there is one] in Arequipa?


I havn't looked on Google book search, but I would expect that there are books about the construction of these railroads - they were engineering marvels considering the very difficult terrain and elevations that had to be dealt with.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 17:30 GMT (UK) »
For what it's worth, his place of last permanent residence when he returned to England in May 1914 was given as Chile, and he boarded the ship (the Orduna) at Antofagasta (Chile).

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anna,

That's amazing ... I've been helping Pyewacket with her FH and have just phoned her with that info !

Can you possibly give refs for what you have found ? 


Erato ... I'm just going to have a look in Google Books for any info, and we'll also try the embassy ...

... good ideas coming in rapidly here !    She'll be very pleased !    :)
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C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

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Re: Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Here's a brief history of railroads in Perú including many minor lines:

http://www.pearcedale.com/c&b/peruhistory.htm

It includes an email address so maybe you could get in touch with the author.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 20:18 GMT (UK) »


Can you possibly give refs for what you have found ? 



The inbound passenger list for the Pacific Steam Navigation Company vessel Orduna, arriving Liverpool 23 May 1914, on which 29 yr old Havelock Kidwell, "mechanic", travelled in 2nd class from Antofagasta, has reference BT26 piece 579 item 53.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 23:29 GMT (UK) »
See:

http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/search2?coll_id=4928&inst_id=13

Files of the Peruvian Corporation [1849-1959] are held at University College London.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 January 09 15:01 GMT (UK) »
A person named Havelock Kidwell arrived in Quebec from Liverpool on 2 July 1919 aboard the SS Grampian.  Birth about 1884, profession mechanic.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Havelock T.R.KIDWELL- where was he in Peru?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 January 09 19:27 GMT (UK) »
The Peruvian Times - English language newspaper in Lima.  Founded in 1908.

http://www.peruviantimes.com/
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis