photo help/ added second pic

[km1971]

Scimnet

Thanks for the correction about when the Long Lee became onsolete. As a 'uniform' man do you think the second pic is 'Home'? And when did they introduce that style of peaked cap.

Ken

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In 1902, the dress regs for a universal uniform was issued, and thence came the SD, full dress scarlets and FS caps, although some had been worn by Regts.

The first titfer that came in was the VERY unpopular "Broderick" cap. It look a bit like a naval hat, and lasted only from 1903-5.

From thence onwards the SD cap was evident.

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As for the pic...Probably home service...possibly on exercise. One coy from each Regt in the Boer War was used as mounted Inf, so it is possible the Rifle Brigade were trg for this "in the event of".

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On second thoughts...

Movements of the 2nd Bn The Rifle Bde

  1898 Sudan   
  1898 Crete & Malta   
  1899.Oct (embarked at Crete) ship: Jelunga
  1899.26th Oct Natal: Durban 
  1899. South Africa 7 Bde
  1902 Egypt   
  1905 India: Chaubattia   
  1908 Calcutta   
  1911 Rawalpindi   
  1913 Kuldana   
  1914.Nov France and Flanders 8 Div
  1919 England: Aldershot   
  1920 Ireland: Ballyshannon

So...Either he was in trg at home after joining up, or he's "up country" in the winter months in India....

What I think is need needed is his records from Kew, if he was discharged prior to 1913...Though 6yrs with the colours and 6yrs on the reserve, he may well have been called back for WW1....

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Right oh...After actually OPENING the pic 

I reckon that the rifle he has is a Lee-Enfield MK1* (Magazine, Lee Enfield) in use to 1902 in some areas,longer esp India I expect, or even in training...

I can't see a charger bar on it, so that would rule out the Lee-Enfield "Charger Loading Lee-Enfield" (CLLE), and the magazine is too short for the Lee-Metford MkI and the sticky out bit below the barrel is too short for the Lee-Metford MkII


Pedants of the world unite!!! 

[joseph clarke]

hello,

thank you to all,the depth of knowledge on this site never ceases to amaze me!!
grandfather was born 25 DEC 1882 in London(bermondsey). i looked at my records again and he was in Calcutta so that match's also.

the 1911 has him in barracks awaiting discharge at alverstoke Hampshire( he was married shortly after his discharge).

how would i go about getting his records from kew?

where are the good conduct chevrons on his uniform? please excuse my  lack of knowledge but what is a coy,trg,
and puttees?

i have one other question,the mounted photo on his left forearm there are crossed insignia?? does anyone know what they are?

once again thank you, 

Eric

[scrimnet]

hello,

thank you to all,the depth of knowledge on this site never ceases to amaze me!!

You are to kind to us all.....

grandfather was born 25 DEC 1882 in London(bermondsey). i looked at my records again and he was in Calcutta so that match's also.

the 1911 has him in barracks awaiting discharge at alverstoke Hampshire( he was married shortly after his discharge).

how would i go about getting his records from kew?

It is a manual search in WO97 at Kew...Through the boxes...They are  alphabetical so quite easy and you have his Regt!!

where are the good conduct chevrons on his uniform? please excuse my  lack of knowledge but what is a coy,trg,
and puttees?

The GCC are at the bottom of his left arm on his whites, one for each 3yrs unblemished service (or undetected crime!! )

coy = Company
trg = Training
Puttees are the bandage like things wound at the bottom of his trousers and at the top of his boots!

i have one other question,the mounted photo on his left forearm there are crossed insignia?? does anyone know what they are?

Crossed rifles...Marksman

once again thank you, 

No probs mate...We enjoy it!

Eric