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Re: Wellington Archives Lookup Please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 22:30 BST (UK) »
Hi all!

That desendant of John Randall has finally made it on to rootschat!!! still filling in the gaps on the old St Hills! I've not got much further from John Randall St Hill and the mother of my GGG Grandfather Rev Thomas St Hill Mary Ann Bartin  :)
 I would love to know who Charles Henrys father was and why he referred back to Bradnich being his home....... ;D

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Re: Wellington Archives Lookup Please
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 09:27 BST (UK) »

Good heavens!  Gidday Tartanpixie!  :D

It's good to catch up with you again.

Remind me.  Did Henry Charles himself say that he was from Bradninch, or did others make that association, eg. Ammabel?  It makes sense after the West Indies débâcle that he might have preferred not to mention that he was from Trinidad, and used the ancestral 'home' instead.

It's a pity that Katrina hasn't come back — would love to know who has custody of the family heirlooms.

I hope you and yours are well.
Koromo
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Stallworthy: Bucks. | Samoa | NZ
Brothers: Nottingham | NZ
Darling: Dunbar | Tahiti
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Re: Wellington Archives Lookup Please
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 November 11 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello !

It would be great to know if there are any records in the family, its on my long list of things to look into. I'm sure there must be for new information to have turned up in the 1970's in Burkes P..

I think it was from the New Zealand end that the ref to Bradninch originate so your theory might well be right. Did  my message get to you about me seeing the slave returns in Kew? and that Thomas's mother was Mary Ann Bartin not Barton as the transcript said?

One answer always gives you another 20 questions  ;D

Nice to be chatting to you again, if you ever fancy running Mary Ann Bartin through the New Zealand records, along with her other children Frederick, Isabella Ameila and Helen Albertina St Hill I would be very grateful  ;D

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Re: Wellington Archives Lookup Please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 19 December 11 22:19 GMT (UK) »
no family heirlooms to speak of alas... Have just managed to retrieve my password and log on again. Will ask around...


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Re: Wellington Archives Lookup Please
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 21 December 11 13:43 GMT (UK) »


     ... and that Thomas's mother was Mary Ann Bartin not Barton as the transcript said?



Hiya tartanpixie

I'm not sure how much emphasis should be placed on the spelling of Mary's name, especially as her daughter's name is written as Helin on the same slave return (below) — likely to be a phonetically-challenged clerk, do you think?

I'm pretty sure that I would have found Mary BARTIN or her St HILL children if they'd ever got as far as NZ.  I've certainly found not even a vague hint of them in NZ or Oz newspapers, BDMs, etc.

The only NZ reference I can find to Bradninch is in a biography for James Henry St HILL which I think you (or was it Kathy?) sent a couple of years ago, where it says, "He was the son of Henry Charles St Hill, of Bradninch, Devonshire, who served many years in the British ordnance department, mainly in the West Indies, Ceylon and Hongkong, retired and died at Wellington on 12 Mar 1861." Unfortunately I haven't a clue what publication this biography came from (a scan from a book) but it  cites C. H. St Hill (Rev Harry's son) as a source.

In Henry Charles' will, even he doesn't say he is 'of' anywhere.  It seems to be Ammabel who liked to tie her husband's St Hill family to Bradninch at every opportunity!
(cf. below from de Ruvigny's Roll of Honour)


Hello Katrina

Would be great if you could ask around.  :)  Some of what Ammabel would have documented was destroyed in WWII, eg. Devon wills and administrations were lost when the Exeter Probate Registry was bombed in 1942.

Do you know where your great grandfather got the name Collis from?  He didn't use it when he signed the parish register at his marriage — perhaps it was a family nickname?


I wish you both a Happy Christmas and all the very best for the New Year.
Koromo
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PS. Windle Hill St HILL also liked to refer to Bradninch:  ;)
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Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Lewis: Llanfair Kilgeddin | Abergavenny | NZ
Stallworthy: Bucks. | Samoa | NZ
Brothers: Nottingham | NZ
Darling: Dunbar | Tahiti
Keat: St Minver | NZ
Bowles: Deal | NZ
Coaney: Bucks.
Jones: Brecon