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Re: HELP!!! Victor Freeman Barkell Bougouis
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 January 09 16:27 GMT (UK) »
That's what I feared re the care homes. I'm hoping talking about it with Gran and her sisters' daughters might jog a relevant memory. He definitely ran away from the home, so I think the story about the home must have been repeated a few times. When did you get into this family history/genealogy stuff? I've been doing it less than a week and I can already tell I'm addicted!
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Re: HELP!!! Victor Freeman Barkell Bougouis
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 January 09 17:06 GMT (UK) »
A week!!!!   I've been researching since 1981 - this was pre-internet so research meant going to a record office and scouring fiche and film, no indexes.   Took forever.   I was brought up in my fathers home town - Ipswich -so needed Ipswich Record Office.   However, I was married and lived in Essex then so my research was crammed into a Saturday once a month when we visited my parents.   You could make a list of all you wanted to check, scan the records all day and come away with nothing!   Most frustrating.   Plus, to complicate things further alot of the early parish records are virtually unreadable.   Nowadays it is so much easier, thank heavens.

My mother was Scottish and tracing that half of me was so difficult then but thanks to the internet have found out more in the past 5 years than the preceding 23!

Sounds like your interest stems from your grandmother and it was the same with me.   Although she had died before I started researching I remembered all the chats we used to have about family - I was the only one of her grandchildren who loved to listen to them.   I have been involved in a One-Name Study of her maiden name - SCOPES - and like to think she'd be proud of what I have uncovered over the years.   You are lucky that your Gran is happy to talk about her family so treasure it all.

It certainly is addictive but in a good way since you can find 'new' relatives, share information, receive information, and even make new friends.   People on this site are generally very helpful and can often break down peoples 'brick walls'.   Sometimes just reading the various posts can give you an insight into something you might  not have considered.    I like to visit at least once a day and scan through the 'unread' posts since my last visit.   Sometimes something catches my eye (like yours) and I will help if I can.   As you gain more experience you'll no doubt do the same in due course.

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Re: HELP!!! Victor Freeman Barkell BOUGOUIS
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 24 January 09 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Hurray!
The birth certificate for Victor Freeman Barkell Bougouis came! Sadly, owing to something to do with the poor quality of the original filmed record, it's just typed onto the cert (and I'm not sure if they've mistranscribed the name of the street for a start)... but it does reveal:

Victor Freeman Barkell Bougouis born 23rd November 1896 (reg'd 28th December 1896) - son of 'Victor Bougouis' (a coal porter) and 'Rosetta Bougouis, formerly Freeman', at 10 'Love Street' (think this might be Looe Street) in the Charles District of Plymouth (which covers Plymton St Mary as well I think... and is one of the many parts flattened by WW2 - think it's where a bombed out church still remains in the middle of a roundabout!)... so it looks as though this Victor (the dad) may well have been the one who had lived in Jersey and had French parents!

Also, my mum has since remembered that the place Victor jr ran away from was the farm he worked on (so the census entry with Victor Burgaise must have been him at 16 in 1911 when he was there 'tending cattle') because the farmer mistreated the animals very badly, which is when we thin he fibbed about his age and joined the navy (though amusingly he apparently also thought the wrong date was his 'real' birthdaythat he had fibbed about!

Going to try to trace more of this Victor-the-dad now I think, to see if  can definitely link him to the Jersey family... and maybe try again with seeing if I can figure out where/how he went into care!

It's so exciting, and so good to see that what we thought probably true was correct! :-)

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Re: HELP!!! Victor Freeman Barkell BOUGOUIS
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 24 January 09 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Vicky

Glad to hear that the birth certificate confirms things.   Hopefully the marriage certificate will again confirm the apparent scenario and enable you to link to the Jersey family found.

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Re: HELP!!! Victor Freeman Barkell Bougouis
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 July 12 19:49 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I think that's Jess's tree, whose post in 2007 on this website is the one I found which led to me finding these links. Poor Rosetta had a rather eventful 40 years it seems! Jess's tree traces her parents back a bit further too, and apparently her other two children, Thomas and Rosetta jr Barkell, ended up with an uncle (who presumably didn't want to take in, or wasn't allowed to take in Victor - or Victor had already been put into care). Mum thinks Victor jr had a half brother who killed himself - might have been Thomas Barkell...




Have sent you a PM but forgot to mention - No Thomas Barkell lived until 1940 so it wasn't him.   
perhaps William Roberts had a son (a step brother rather than a half brother) that did?
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