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Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« on: Saturday 17 January 09 01:06 GMT (UK) »
Please could I ask if anybody could look up a baptism of Susan Anscombe or Ancombe of Cuckfield, Sussex.  By my calculations she was born 3 Jan 1817. 

And also if possible whether there is a baptism of a Frederick Dancy born about 1809 in Cuckfield or Lindfield or possibly at Finches Farm Lindfield.

Many thanks and in hope,
Penny

Dancy Dancey Crowter Binney Outred Cowdry Bowmer Kensett Alderton Akers Killick

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Re: Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 January 09 09:05 GMT (UK) »
The last Anscombe in Cuckfield died only a few years ago.  They are a well known family in the area.  Cuckfield Museum has recently had a display about them so has quite a bit of information if you are near enough to visit.  Currently closed until Feb 14th though.   I will check on the baptism later today.   Off out to get marmalade oranges now!
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Re: Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 January 09 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I searched from 1813 to 1828.
There are two Anscombe families having children baptised in Cuckfield at that time at holy trinity Church.
Joseph, who is a Carpenter, with wife Elizabeth and John, a labourer with wife Sarah.
You can see all their daughters by looking at batch number C024337 on the IGI at www.familysearch.org
The sons for Joseph and Elizabeth are
1813 Sep 19 Edwin
1818 Sep 15 Joseph
1825 May 1 son (no name)
1818 June 1 Parker

and for John and Sarah
1817 Dec 28 Joseph
You will see from the IGI that the only Susan in the register is a daughter of John and Sarah who is baptised in 1822.   This does not fit with your birth date unless she was quite old at baptisn and the vicar usually noted the age if that was the case.  I see there is a marriage in Slaugham for John Anscombe to Sarah Tomsett in 1799.
Joseph and Elizabeth Parker married in Cuckfield in 1812.
Where did you get Susan's birth date from?
My copy of the register starts at 1813 so I could not look for Frederick Dancy - again it is a common name in Cuckfield and we have had several people into the museum researching it.
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Re: Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 January 09 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Burial 1825 May 24th
Myrtellis son of Joseph and Elizabeth Anscombe (Carpenter) age 6 weeks

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Re: Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 January 09 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I searched from 1813 to 1828.
There are two Anscombe families having children baptised in Cuckfield at that time at holy trinity Church.
Joseph, who is a Carpenter, with wife Elizabeth and John, a labourer with wife Sarah.
You can see all their daughters by looking at batch number C024337 on the IGI at www.familysearch.org
The sons for Joseph and Elizabeth are
1813 Sep 19 Edwin
1818 Sep 15 Joseph
1825 May 1 son (no name)
1818 June 1 Parker

and for John and Sarah
1817 Dec 28 Joseph
You will see from the IGI that the only Susan in the register is a daughter of John and Sarah who is baptised in 1822.   This does not fit with your birth date unless she was quite old at baptisn and the vicar usually noted the age if that was the case.  I see there is a marriage in Slaugham for John Anscombe to Sarah Tomsett in 1799.
Joseph and Elizabeth Parker married in Cuckfield in 1812.

Where did you get Susan's birth date from?

My copy of the register starts at 1813 so I could not look for Frederick Dancy - again it is a common name in Cuckfield and we have had several people into the museum researching it.
Andrea



Hi Andrea,

Thank you very much for looking and trying to find an answer. 

In Cuckfield in 1841 the only Susan Anscombe that it seems was ordinarily baptised in Cuckfield, the daughter of John and Sarah) had got married to an Edward Tullet (marriage registered Q2 1841 Cuckfield and these 4 were all enumerated together;

1841 in Cuckfield, all born in Sussex
John Anscombe 63, Ag Lab
Sarah Anscombe 60 
Edward Tullett 20, Ag Lab 
Susan Tullett 20 

My Susan Anscombe had got married to Jesse Dancy and they had their first child by 1838 and they had both emigrated to the USA.  They lived at Pittsford, Monroe, New York and then Perinton, Monroe, NY.

The evidence I have that Jesse Dancy's wife's surname was "Ancombe" was from the marriage record of their son William Dancy.

I know Jesse Dancy or his father came from Sydney Farm, Lindfield/Cuckfield due to the deaths of his siblings being recorded in the Burial records of Horsham Baptist Church [in West Sussex, England] :
Hannah dau of Joseph and Phoebe Dancy of Sidney, age 16, died June 1st 1820, buried 7th June 1820.
And, Daniel son of Joseph and Phoebe Dancy of Sidney, age 10 years 8 months, died June 10th Jun 1825, buried 16th June 1825."  The names of these siblings of Jesse's tally in with all the children that are found in another individual record on the IGI for the children of Joseph Dancy and Phoebe. 

The indication I got of Susan Anscombe's birthplace was that it was entered as Cuckfield in an individual family record on the IGI, which of course could be erroneous, found by seeking Jesse Dancy with Susan and looking at North American records.

I got Susan's approximate date of birth from the following website where it recorded the transcript of the words on her gravestone at Greenvale Rural Cemetery, East Church Street, Fairport, Monroe County, New York, USA.  It explained she died on 6 May 1880, aged 63 years 3 months and 5 days, so d.o.b calculated from that.
http://mcnygenealogy.com/cem/greenval.htm

Found nothing after obtaining a copy of the Story of the Free Christian Church, Horsham by Emily Kensett.

I'm a bit stumped now!  If anyone can think of any other ideas, these are welcome!
Dancy Dancey Crowter Binney Outred Cowdry Bowmer Kensett Alderton Akers Killick

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Re: Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 January 09 22:07 GMT (UK) »
If the farm is in Cuckfield then it will be Sidnye - just north of the village out on the road to Balcombe.
There is no marriage for a Jesse Dancy on the Sussex Marriage Index.  Did they marry here or in the USA?
Horsham is really not near enough to Cuckfield or Lindfield for them to worship regularly at a church there.  It is around 30 minutes in a car now.  Why do you think the Sidney is at Cuckfield or Lindfield?
This is puzzling!
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Re: Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 January 09 22:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi again
The marriage of Joseph Dancy and Phoebe Croucher took place in Cuckfield but he is "of Worth".  I expect you know that.     Worth is to the north of Cuckfield - about 10 - 15 minutes by car.
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Re: Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 January 09 22:32 GMT (UK) »
East Sussex Land Tax 1785
Cuckfield
Owner: Mr Michael Chatfeild
Occupier: John Dancy
Lands: Sidney
Rental: £69


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Re: Baptism Lookup please for Susan Anscombe of Cuckfield
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 January 09 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Owner: Francis Sergison esq
Occupier: John Anscombe
Lands: Winpenny's Croft
Rental: £3

Owner: Frances Budd
Occupier: John Anscombe
Lands: The Highlands
Rental: £13

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