William and Matilda Gwynne

[seahall]

Hi All

My friend has been sent a generation record of a William and Matilda Gwynne child James born in IRELAND.

Can anyone please direct me to any source that may help me find where.

I have tried the LDS site yet can no see any information to assist.

T.I.A.

Sandy

[shanew147]

full civil registration started in 1864 - so too late for the birth of James.

to go back earlier you would need to know a place - probably county, townland or parish... and religion to check parish registers - if available

Gwynne does not sound like a common name here so maybe a search of Griffith Valuation might give some clues as to location :

http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php

this is a land valuation for taxation purposes - carried out between 1847 and 1864, and includes all the occupiers of land owners and long term lease holders. edited 22nd Jan 09


Shane

[coombs]

Hi

I have looked on the IGI but couldnt find anything. I think with Irish research a location is essential as otherwise it can be tricky if they were from Ireland.

Ben

[shanew147]

as far as I know IGI only includes extracted (civil) info for 1864 to about 1880,
and not that many parish register extracts. Anything else on family search is submitted data - with very patchy coverage



Shane

[shanew147]

Gwynne entries from Pigots commercial directory of 1824 :

W. J. Gwynn  4, upper Dorset-street, Dublin - Attorney

Joseph Gwynne, King-st, Kilkenny - Tailor
Patrick Gwynne, William-st, Kilkenny - Tailor

Geo. Gwynn, Cork - Plumber

Robt. Gwynn,  Main-street, Mallow, Co. Cork Saddle & Harness Maker

-- Gwynne , Mill-row, Antrim Town - Attorney

Rev. Stephen Gwynne, rector, Glebe, Larne

John Gwynne esq, Bishop St., Londonderry (Gentry & Clergy section)

Richard Gwynn , Main-st, Strabane  - Tailor




Shane

[coombs]

Hi

That W Gwynne in Dublin looks promising.

It is possible he was of Welsh extraction as Gwynne is a Welsh name.

Ben

[seahall]

Hi Shane/Ben.

Thank you both for the information you have listed and linked to.

It is greatly appreciated.

I am afraid that my friend only received what is listed above and I
totally agree a place would have helped greatly. 

As James moved to Lanarkshire and married there, all links from then
on are known.

It is the Irish connection that I would not accept as factual without
knowing the source, which we don't.

Thanks again if I can pin the place down I will add to topic.

Sandy

[Rockford]

Hi Sandy,

James Gwynne and Elisabeth 'Betsy' Dale were my 3 x Great Grandparents.  Their daughter Agnes, born c.1854 in Shotts was my 2 x Great Grandmother.

James and Elisabeth are recorded has having been born in Ireland on one of the Census records.  It just states 'Ireland', rather than a place.  I can't remember which Census but I'll check tomorrow when I'm able to access the PC, rather than the laptop I'm using tonight.

I know of a couple of people who had/have William and James born in Wales, but I haven't seen any proof of this, although it is apparently a Welsh name.

Part of the problem is that is has been spelled as Gwynne/Gwyn/Gwynn/Guin/Guyan/Gwine and Quin!!

Best wishes

Rockford

[seahall]

Hi Rockford

Thank you so much for replying and more so for being a link to the same family.

Looking at the generations they are also my friends 3gt grandparents.

The lineage is through from James of 1824 to John Gwynne of 1853 daughter Mary
Gwynne born in 1878 who married James Whyte.

Thanks again and I look forward to hearing from you.

Sandy