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1911 - what do you get? - to save keep asking.
« on: Tuesday 13 January 09 14:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi
if you follow this link it will take you to the BBC News Page.  They have the story and also a PDF file showing what you will see on the Census Form.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7816516.stm
Peter
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 15:14 GMT (UK) »
UK census content is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk  Transcriptions are my own.

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 22:00 GMT (UK) »
It's expensive - like Scotlandspeople

If you've got a common name in any one area it's difficult to narrow down the possible transcripts. However, the transcripts are good, and the images (so far) clear. Plus it's nice to see ancestor's own handwriting.

It's by pay-as-you go only at present, so don't take a subscription to findmypast.

One can only hope Ancestry can get access to it.

Incidentally, the 1931 census was completeley destroyed in a fire (for those who might still be alive when it would have been made public  ;D ;D ;D)

Can't wait now for the military stuff, as the ancestor I'm interested in was in the Army in 1911.
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 10:53 GMT (UK) »

It looks like accessing the 1911 census could be an expensive business. I had rather naively assumed that it would be possible to access it via Ancestry, of which I am a subscriber, since they already have all the others from 1841.       
Ames 1784 & earlier Beaminster, Dorset
Andrew 1803 & earlier Thorpe Achurch, Northamptonshire
Baker 1834 & earlier Southwark, Surrey
Bradford 1836 & earlier Exeter, Devon 
Coring 1806 & earlier Battersea, Surrey
Davis 1828 & earlier Southwark, Surrey
Dunn 1814 & earlier Highworth, Wiltshire
Furner 1793 & earlier Chalk,
Hobley 1821 & earlier Clifton upon Dunsmore, Warwickshire
Prime 1805 & earlier Suffolk
Rowe 1813 & earlier Peasenhall, Suffolk
Wing 1765 & earlier Southwark, Surrey


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi, me to with Ancestry, I guess they will get it when FindMyPast has squeezed all the ££££ they can from it.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 11:06 GMT (UK) »
It's 10 units to see a transcript, and 30 to view the source document. 280 units cost £24.95, therefore 1 unit is approx 8.9 pence. So 89 pence for a transcript, and £2.67 to see a source document. The lower cost pay-as-you-go options make it even more expensive. Given the numbers of people I know who do family research that are pensioners, this is a resource they will struggle to afford.

Each source document is a single household, so if you want to see a street you'll need deep pockets.

Does anyone actually know if the census will be made available via Ancestry?

I'm assuming findmypast will offer a subscription service at some point, but I don't really want two subscriptions for a effectively the same service, and Ancestry (despite it's critics!) is probably the best at the moment (as and when it's up and running, that is).

David
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Census and Resource Discussion
  1911 census

lot more going on over here.
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 11:19 GMT (UK) »
I suppose this is what is called the operation of the market and if like me you've already paid a subscription to Ancestry for unlimited access to all the other census you're not really looking to pay more to another provider. I assume Ancestry would want to complete the set as it were but as peterbmillzz says only after findmypast has squeezed all they can from it.      
Ames 1784 & earlier Beaminster, Dorset
Andrew 1803 & earlier Thorpe Achurch, Northamptonshire
Baker 1834 & earlier Southwark, Surrey
Bradford 1836 & earlier Exeter, Devon 
Coring 1806 & earlier Battersea, Surrey
Davis 1828 & earlier Southwark, Surrey
Dunn 1814 & earlier Highworth, Wiltshire
Furner 1793 & earlier Chalk,
Hobley 1821 & earlier Clifton upon Dunsmore, Warwickshire
Prime 1805 & earlier Suffolk
Rowe 1813 & earlier Peasenhall, Suffolk
Wing 1765 & earlier Southwark, Surrey

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 January 09 09:22 GMT (UK) »
The difference between this and all the other censuses is that the 1911 census was never microfilmed.  This meant that to put all the other censuses online, the genealogy companies would purchase copies of the orginal microfilms, then digitise, transcribe and index what they contained.  The 1911 census only existed in paper form, which means that Brightsolid (owners of FindMyPast, amongst others) have had to photograph the original returns individually, digitise them, pay people to transcribe and index them, and make them available online.  Any other companies wishing to host the 1911 census on their sites will have to purchase the digitised photos, and then do their own transcriptions and indexing.  It's very unlikely that the National Archives will allow others access to the original documents, so companies will have to negotiate with Brightsolid for pricing.

RIP 1949-10th January 2013

Best Wishes,  Nick.

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