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Cotter from Youghal
« on: Tuesday 13 January 09 11:52 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I was hoping someone could help me regarding a question I have on Youghal.  I have an ancestor who was apparently born in a "now heritage-listed" house in Youghal, made "famous" locally by a visit from Charles Stewart Parnell.  My ancestor was Edward Richard Cotter, born in 1884.  His father was also Edward (a bookkeeper) and his mother was Mary Walsh.

Can anyone suggest how I might track down this house he was apparently born in?  Is there an online listing of buildings in Youghal? 

Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted!

Kind Regards

Sal


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Re: Cotter from Youghal
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 January 09 09:57 GMT (UK) »
i am very new to all this and hope that i am not breaking any rules by adding on to this request.  :-[

 i have 2 ancestors born in Youghall but all i have are names, approx year of birth and father's name.

could you please point me in the right direction to find out some more info?

Many thanks
Maz :)

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Re: Cotter from Youghal
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 January 09 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Maz,

I certainly don't mind you adding to my thread about Youghal, we both seem to be in the same boat (or harbour, as it is)!  Lets hope some knowledgeable person out there can help us.

Kind Regards,

Sal   :)

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Re: Cotter from Youghal
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 January 09 10:44 GMT (UK) »
entries for Youghal from Slater's Commercial Directory

1881

Cotter Jeremiah, Cross lane,  (PAINTERS, PLUMBERS AND
GLAZIERS.)

William H. Cotter The Mall (Public House)

Assembly Rooms, Mall House - Edward Cotter, keeper

1870

John Cotter, South Main st - Hair Dressers
Jeremiah Cotter , North Main st - Painters, Plumbers and
Glaziers

Assembly Rooms, Mall House Edward Cotter, keeper

the Mall House where these Cotters worked  sounds like it could be a listed building - see the wikipedia page for a mention of it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youghal


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Re: Cotter from Youghal
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 January 09 10:47 GMT (UK) »
hi Sal

Thanks.
My g-g grandfather was a waterman and seemed to move around a bit so it is very hard to locate any real info. he had 4 children. 2 born in Ireland, 1 in Kent and 1 in Sussex.  Can't find anything on any of them. :(

As you said I hope there is someone out there that can give us a helping hand.
Regards
Maz

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Re: Cotter from Youghal
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 January 09 10:51 GMT (UK) »
hi Maz !

I dont know exactly what a waterman does - but he sounds like an occupation that might in some of the commercial directories. If you post his name and approx dates I'll have a look for him.



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Re: Cotter from Youghal
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 January 09 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shane,

Thank you so much for your response, I certainly do appreciate it!  The Mall House sounds promising, and the two men I'm researching are indeed called Edward (father and son).  Father was apparently a bookkeeper and son eventually joined the Royal Munster Fusiliers and went to the Boer War (maybe he didn't fancy staying in town doing the books...?!).  Our family lore also mentions that Charles Stewart Parnell visited "their house", though this now seems erroneous.  I'm quite sure that it would have be the done thing for him to visit the Assembly Rooms and attend a concert or two at Mall House, along with all the other fashionable people of the day!

I understand that there is a system in Northern Ireland for listing buildings of historical interest (similar to English Heritage, I guess), but I don't suppose you know offhand if there is something similar for the south?

Kind regards,

Sal  :)

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Re: Cotter from Youghal
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 January 09 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Oh, never mind answering my question in the second paragraph, I've just discovered a page on The National Inventory of Architectural Heritage!

Sal  :)

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Re: Cotter from Youghal
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 January 09 04:19 GMT (UK) »
hi Shane

Thanks so much for the offer.  :)

My gg grandfathers name was William(s) Vincent.  His sons, who were born in Youghall, were Joseph Hale Vincent and William Thomas Vincent.  They were born around 1839 and 1841.  My gg grandfather would have been about 34 years old when Joseph was born.

Regards
Maz