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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #306 on: Sunday 18 January 09 09:20 GMT (UK) »
This might be a silly idea, but if the address is on the return could you not try and google it??  You might get lucky.

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Not a silly idea Kerry ........ it's just that there is no address at all otherwise I would have automatIcally googled ... what I see is a page of 8 columns which have the main headers from 'name to the blanked out last column' and no address at the bottom or anywhere else for that matter .... I have 'zoomed' in and out but what you see is what you get ... very frustrating indeed.
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #307 on: Sunday 18 January 09 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Joboy

That is frustrating.   :(

Kerry
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #308 on: Sunday 18 January 09 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Joboy

I think that you need to spend 10 credits on the transcript.  This will tell you nothing of your ancestor that you do not already know but at the very bottom of the page on the left there should be an address box, which may or may not include the name of the institution.

Good luck

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Fife - Co?per, Dun, Jackson
NE England - Harland, Hasted, Heaviside, Longridge, Thompson
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #309 on: Sunday 18 January 09 10:46 GMT (UK) »
This might be a silly idea, but if the address is on the return could you not try and google it??  You might get lucky.

Kerry
Not a silly idea Kerry ........ it's just that there is no address at all otherwise I would have automatIcally googled ... what I see is a page of 8 columns which have the main headers from 'name to the blanked out last column' and no address at the bottom or anywhere else for that matter .... I have 'zoomed' in and out but what you see is what you get ... very frustrating indeed.
Joboy

Hi JoBoy,

If you track down the full census reference you should be able to get at least a better idea where it is. What file name did it offer you when you downloaded the image? If you don't remember, download it again. You are looking for RDxx SDxx EDxx.

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #310 on: Sunday 18 January 09 11:16 GMT (UK) »
If you track down the full census reference you should be able to get at least a better idea where it is.

Speaking of which . . . does anybody know how to decode the file names? Is there an index to the place names somewhere?

As an example, here is one of mine (although I do actually know where this is): RG14PN9988_RG78PN525_RD192_SD2_ED9_SN5

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #311 on: Sunday 18 January 09 11:27 GMT (UK) »
If you track down the full census reference you should be able to get at least a better idea where it is.

Speaking of which . . . does anybody know how to decode the file names? Is there an index to the place names somewhere?

As an example, here is one of mine (although I do actually know where this is): RG14PN9988_RG78PN525_RD192_SD2_ED9_SN5

Mike.
Hi Mike,

RD192_SD2_ED9 Orsett   Fobbing

See http://www.ancestryhost.org/caswells//1911/RG14.pdf

Paul

Spreadsheet: http://www.ancestryhost.org/caswells//1911/RG14-Public.zip
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #312 on: Sunday 18 January 09 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There have been a number of comments about the accuracy of the transcriptions.  This is an important matter since it affects the success of one's searches.  A letter in yesterday's Telegraph (17 Jan 2009) suggested that the quality was very poor.  As a rough check of quality I have compared the names and ages of 30 institution occupants with the names and ages that were on the actual image page.  The original page was obviously written as quickly as the clerk could and is not particularly clear - the "ck" combination on first reading looked like "col", "s" at the end of a name is an almost horizontal tail, and the clerk invariably spells "William" as "Willaim" but the transcription gives the name as "William".  Among the 30 names there are, I believe, two transcription errors - "Sean" for "Sears" and "Whilmann" for "Uhlmann".  In addition one age, recorded as 26 is probably 76 - the clerk writes "7" with a curved stroke similar to the top of a "2" and there is frequently a light stroke joining the base of the "7" to the following number so the confusion is understandable.

It took me quite a few minutes to do this check and I can understand that FindMyPast probably cannot afford such an effort.  I think that we have to accept that there are errors and just notify FindMyPast as we find them in the hope that they will gradually be corrected.

All the best

Gobbo
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Fife - Co?per, Dun, Jackson
NE England - Harland, Hasted, Heaviside, Longridge, Thompson
SE England - Drawbridge, Hall, Hayward, Howard, Newell, Seward, Slade, Smith

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #313 on: Sunday 18 January 09 14:49 GMT (UK) »
It's hard to say for sure about the quality of transcriptions, because when we read stuff, we already know what we are looking for, as opposed to the transcribers who will see hundreds of disjointed names in the course of a day.  Quite often we see threads on this forum asking for help to read handwriting on documents, and it's only when someone else "cracks it" that it becomes blindingly obvious what it says.  Of course, there is another problem on the 1911 census - on all previous censuses, we only got to see the emunerator returns, so you had a whole page of writing in the same hand, to make comparisons, and the emunerators (on the whole) had fairly good handwriting.  On the 1911 census, the entries were written mainly by the householders themselves, or a child in the family who could read and write, so you will only have a few lines in the same hand, and often the handwriting will be very poor.

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #314 on: Sunday 18 January 09 15:00 GMT (UK) »
Is it known if the enumerator was with 'the family' when the information is re-written underneath the original family attempt.

I ask as the re-written info could differ, in a birth place, by a few hundred miles..
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For reason's only beknown to themselves, a very small section, with the two birthplaces, that I had posted, has been removed.
                Do tell if all the 'what does this say' posts will be removed.
                     You will be removing for an awful long time...........  ::)



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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner