christie family liberton

[MonicaL]

Hi All

Haven't figured it out, but could this be Daniel in 1841? Unless shown, everyone born in the county. The census that year was on 6 June:

John McGonegal 35, gardener journeyman b. Ireland
Bridget McGonegal 30 b. Ireland
John McGonegal 11
James McGonegal 4
Sarah McGonegal 3
Daniel McGonegal 3 Months
Thomas Moran 19 Shoem J (?shoemaker journeyman), b. Ireland
Betsy Moran 17

Address: Bells Wynd, Edinburgh New North

Monica 

[tigger_lass]

Hi

Intriguing...but if this is him it doesn't explain why he registered his marriage in 1860 as Daniel Christie with parents John Christie and Bridget Forbes The 1851 census has Daniel McG living with parents at 7 St James Court.

Tracey

ADDED     Bridget McGonegal in 1851 now has an age of 50....

MCGONIGAL   John       Head    M   M   48   Gardener's Labourer    Ireland - -       
MCGONIGAL   Bridget   Wife     M   F   50                                         Ireland - -       
MORAN           Thomas  Stpson U   M   28   General Labourer         Ireland - -       
MCGONIGAL   John       Son   U M   20   Gardener Journeyman       Midlothian - Edinburgh       
MCGONIGAL   James     Son   -  M   13   Message Boy                    Midlothian - Edinburgh       
MCGONIGAL   Sarah     Dau   -  F   11   At School                           Midlothian - Edinburgh       
MCGONIGAL   Daniel    Son   -   M   9   At School                            Midlothian - Edinburgh       
MCFARLANE   Marion    Visitr      U   F   50   Sick Nurse                   Argyllshire - Kilchoman

[MonicaL]

Hi Tracey

Did the 1860 MC show Daniel's parents as alive or deceased I wonder?

Monica

[MonicaL]

The 1861 census is interesting:

John McGonigal 50, R(L?)and Labourer b Ireland
Daniel McGonigal 19 , R(L?)and Labourer b Edinburgh
Elizabeth McGonigal 18, daughter in law, dress maker b. Edinburgh
Thomas McLauchlan 37, Journeyman Tailor, lodger b. Ireland

Address: 105 Grassmarket, Edinburgh New Greyfriars

[MonicaL]

Elizabeth McCartney's birth is showing as a submitted entry on IGI as 1843 in Edinburgh so age above would fit.

Added: The 1851 census for Elizabeth I would think from the details you found Tracey on the MC:

John McCartney 35, Costermonger, b. Ireland
Helen McCartney 29, b. Ireland
Steven McCartney 13, b. Ireland
Elizabeth McCartney 9, b. Ireland
Helen McCartney 8 Months, b. Edinburgh

Address: Maconnochies Close 44 Cowgate, Edinburgh St John

Costermonger was a  Street seller of apples, other fruit and vegetables www.scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm

Luckydog, there is an 1855 birth cert showing for a child to John and Helen on IGI:

MARY MC CARTNEY   Birth: 23 NOV 1855 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh

1855 was the first year of official registration in Scotland and the certs ran over to two pages on the register. For births, it should include date and place of parents' marriage, ages, occupation, where the parents were from and how many children they'd had (alive or deceased). A good one for you to look at if you haven't already. With Irish families, it may be the only clue as to where they came from in Ireland 

[tigger_lass]

Hi Monica

1860 MC made no mention of Daniel's parents being deceased.

Tracey

[tigger_lass]

Blimey Monica 

Just checked the MC again.....guess what address Daniel gives as his residence    105 Grassmarket!!

Why would he change his name to Christie for his MC and then his wife use McGonigal for the census and then all go back to Christie for the 1871 census???

Tracey

[MonicaL]

Sorry Tracey - lots of questions from me!

Do any of the address we have on the censuses match the addresses given on the 1860 MC by Daniel and Elizabeth (it would help if I could find the 1861 census for the McCartneys which I'm struggling to do!)

Added:

I think this might be them with father John showing as Owen:

Owen McCartney 45, Hawker Clothes, b. Ireland
Ellen McCartney 40, b. Cannongate
John McCartney 20, brewer, b. Edinburgh
Ellen McCartney 10, b. Edinburgh
Mary McCartney 5, b. Edinburgh
James McCartney 2, b. Edinburgh

Address: 133 Cowgate, Edinburgh Old Greyfriars

[MonicaL]

Sorry Tracey - posts crossed over (RC is back on go slow  )

That's great that we have a match  No idea why Daniel would change his name though. Only a few months later he is registering the birth of first born under Christie:

STEVEN MC CARTNEY CHRISTIEBirth: 16 JUL 1861 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh