Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871

[Philcandy]

This looks pretty convincing to me tati.

Thanks so much; I'll wait and see if the lady who wrote to me can add anything to what she already told me.

Kind regards and thanks again.

Phil

[gretchen]

Hello everyone " Happy New Year " to all. I greatly appreciate the posts. I myself, is at cross road on the research. Anything I have is either too old or too new to the dates I was given. I did find on a tree post this. Henry Ponting b. 1831 - St. James, Bristol, GLS, Eng. Bap. 19 June 1831 St James, St. Jacob,  Bristol. Son of Thomas Ponting and Amelia Row. Shows he was married twice. He married, lived and died in Australia. " Nichols Family Person " pg. 10, tizzana.com/au/familyhistory . I wrote to the person I am trying to help with what was found by everyone. I told him, a little more information would help. I am waiting on his replie and will let everyone know A.S.A.P. Thanks again on the posts.

[Tati]

Hi Gretchen 

The only census I can see the family you mention is 1841. I wonder if they emigrated between 1841 and 1851.

Might be worth posting on the Emigrants to Australia board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,165.0.html

 

[gretchen]

This is what I found today. All persons listed were from the district of Clifton in the county of Gloucestershire. Henry was born in 1840. He married a Maria Stevens b. 1848. They married Dec.1865. Edward William b. 1868. If you find something to add to the search, it would be great. If you know of a good site to research at let me know also. Thanks everyone.

[Tati]

I'm confused now Gretchen. Earlier you said

Shows he was married twice. He married, lived and died in Australia.

but the 1865 marriage you mention is in England:

Dec 1865 Clifton 6a 244
Henry Ponting - Maria Stevens

and the most likely census match in 1871 is:
St Philip & St Jacob, Gloucestershire
84 Victoria Ter
Maria Ponting, head, widow, 23, Tailoress, b. Bristol St Phillips
Henry, son, 4, b. do.

With a probable death registration for Henry sr as follows:
Henry Ponting age 29
Dec 1869
Clifton 6a 95

which would make him born ca. 1840, as you say = 10 years too young to be the Henry son of Thomas and Amelia 

[Tati]

It seems Maria goes on to marry an Alfred Sims in Sep 1871, and they are all enumerated as Sims in 1881:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/05c5/
RG11/2501 82 14

All including Edward age 22 named Sims in 1891 as well ( RG12/1986 125 20)

[gretchen]

I am sorry for any confusion, when I posted the prior findings of the Henry who was in Australia. That was the only findings I could locate and wondered if it " could " be the right one. With little information ( and wide area to his birth date ) in trying to help someone. I felt like I was searching in the dark at most points. The person is happy for my help but, at the same time I feel he is a little reserved on what information he has or gives out. ( ? ) My deepest appoligies. The findings I made last night are of the right family. The person who I am trying to help confirmed I was on the right track. But the confirmation is all I got. Sorry again.

[Tati]

No problem at all Gretchen - just trying to find the correct family for you

[Tati]

So - you'll need Henry's marriage certificate to confirm his father's name because there are several Henry Pontings born in Gloucestershire around 1840.

I quite like this boy in 1841 - shame the 1841 census doesn't show relationships.

1841
HO107/378/10 5 5
St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Thomas Ponting, 48, Labourer, no (=not born in county)
Sarah, 42, no
Mary Ann, 18, no
Sarah Ann, 13, yes
Christianna, 8, yes
Thomas, 4, yes
Henry, 12 mo, yes

(There's a birth registered in Jun 1840 Clifton)