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Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Could SKS please help me to locate Henry PONTING, born about 1845 in Bristol (probably Clifton) in 1861 and 1871?

In 1881 he was in Walsall, Staffordshire, with his wife Eliza and family but I don't know where he was or who he was with in earlier censuses.

Many thanks for any help with this inquiry.

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Re: Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Phil, based on the kids ages in 1881, he was in the Blakenall area of Staffs at least in 1871 ?


great pity that his PoB is illegible in 1881 ....
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Re: Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi both  :)

The 1861 census shows a Henry Ponting age 16 born Cirencester, lodging in Gt Wyrley Staffordshire with a Rowlands family.

(The 1901 census, in Walsall, shows Henry's birth place quite clearly as Cirencester I'd say - and looking closer at 1881, it's Cirencester as well in my opinion)

 
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Re: Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:37 GMT (UK) »
altho names not a perfect match, (only Edward, so who/where is Jabez ? ) think this is them ..

1871 - RG10/2959; Folio: 59; Page: 23 - Blakenall, Walsall
 
Henry Ponton [sic] 24  Head Pudler Wolverhampton
Eliza Ponton 23  Wife Bloxwich
Edward Ponton 4  son do
Thomas Ponton 2  son do
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Re: Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Age slightly out but here's a candidate in 1851:

1851
HO107/1968 332 13
Cirencester, Gloucestershire
Cricklade St

Samuel Ponting, head, 69, Blacksmith, b. Cirencester
Sarah, wife, 69, Laundress, b. Daglingworth??
Jane, dau, unm, 25, Shoebinder, b. Cirencester
Henry, grandson, 8, scholar, b. do.

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Re: Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:45 GMT (UK) »
on what were you basing Bristol or Clifton PoB Phil ?
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Re: Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Dear both

Many thanks for these very helpful leads. Like you, I had found him in 1881 as follows:

1881 Census of Stafford
RG11/Piece / Folio   2820 / 102
5 Churm Terrace
Walsall Foreign
Henry PONTING   Head   M   Male   36   ...*   Iron Worker    
Eliza PONTING   Wife   M   Female   37   Pelsall, Stafford, England        
Jabez PONTING   Son   U   Male   17   Blakenall, Stafford, England   Iron Worker    
Edward PONTING   Son   U   Male   15   Blakenall, Stafford, England   Iron Worker    
Eliza Ann PONTING   Daur   U   Female   10   Blakenall, Stafford, England   Scholar    
Mary PONTING   Daur   U   Female   8   Blakenall, Stafford, England   Scholar    
Elizabeth PONTING   Daur   U   Female   6   Blakenall, Stafford, England   Scholar    
Henry PONTING   Son   U   Male   3   Blakenall, Stafford, England        
Charles PONTING   Son      Male   9 m   Blakenall, Stafford, England        

*The place of birth is either missing or illegible

From the above, Henry PONTING was born about 1845. I couldn't find any of the children being born in Staffordshire under the name PONTING, but there are several named POINTON, POYNTON or PONTON, which could be a variant spelling.

There is a possible marriage between Henry POINTING and Eliza ROWLEY at Walsall, Staffordshire on 18 DEC 1865.  The question is where was he from?  It has been suggested that he was from Bristol, and indeed there is a Henry PONTING aged 6 (i.e, born in 1845) in the Clifton Workhouse in 1851, but he is the only PONTING in the Workshouse, suggesting that he was abandoned or else his mother had died sometime between 1845 and 1851.

However, your finds suggest Cirencester (or even Wolverhampton!) as possible places of birth.

Curiouser and curiouser...

Happy New Year, by the way, and many thanks for responding.

Best wishes

Phil



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Re: Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:48 GMT (UK) »
on what were you basing Bristol or Clifton PoB Phil ?

Hi Newf

I'm trying to help someone who wrote to me, and she said that she thought he was from Bristol. I haven't any proof either way.

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Re: Henry PONTING in 1861 and 1871
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 January 09 13:56 GMT (UK) »
This is from the 1881 image - 2nd line. If you want it to read Cirencester (as in 1901), I think it does  :) 

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