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Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« on: Saturday 10 January 09 10:05 GMT (UK) »
I need HELP.
I dont have much information to go back further on my maternal great grandmothers side of the family.
her name was Hannah Louisa Emma ROWLEY b. 1896 in Wolverhampton.
the only other information that i have is her parents were Joseph ROWLEY who married a Isabelle TIMMINS. I would like to know their date of births and where they were born. when they married and who their parents were.
did hannah have any siblings. did her parents have any siblings.
who are their ancestors - cousins aunts uncles great parents etc.

hannah came to australia in about 1916 with her first husband arthur cooper.

that is all i have on her english life.
any help to assist me further would be very much appreciated.

cheers from oz
liz
EUSTACE - Wantage, Berkshire
BURGESS - Maresfield, Sussex
STRAW - Ilkeston, Derbyshire
CROSS - Liverpool, Lancashire
STEWART - Ayr, Scot.
McNAUGHTON - Scot.
ROWLEY, HICKMAN, TIMMINS - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
DRADDY - Co. Cork, Ireland
WALL - Co. Clare, Ireland
JANE - Mylor, Helston, Falmouth, Cornwall,
JARMAN - Ramsgate, Kent
STEPHENSON/BROWN -  NZ &West. Aust.
GOODWIN - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, UK
HAWKINS - ?


all these families came to Australia for one reason or another.

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Re: Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 January 09 10:27 GMT (UK) »


Hi Liz

well, here they are in 1901:

1901
Rg13.  P. 2970  Fol. 111 Pg. 12


43 Victoria Road, Little Penn, Staffs.

ROWLEY
Joseph  Head  M  44  Builders Scaffolder  B.  Wombourn, Staffs
Isabella  Wife  M  48                    B. Swindon, Staffs
Hannah L. E  Dau  4                     B.  Bradmore, Staffs

There is another Rowley family next door  -  possibly Joseph's brother - we shall see  ;)
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 January 09 10:40 GMT (UK) »
thank you. i look forward to hearing more.

this is more then i new already.

cheers from oz
liz
EUSTACE - Wantage, Berkshire
BURGESS - Maresfield, Sussex
STRAW - Ilkeston, Derbyshire
CROSS - Liverpool, Lancashire
STEWART - Ayr, Scot.
McNAUGHTON - Scot.
ROWLEY, HICKMAN, TIMMINS - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
DRADDY - Co. Cork, Ireland
WALL - Co. Clare, Ireland
JANE - Mylor, Helston, Falmouth, Cornwall,
JARMAN - Ramsgate, Kent
STEPHENSON/BROWN -  NZ &West. Aust.
GOODWIN - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, UK
HAWKINS - ?


all these families came to Australia for one reason or another.

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Re: Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 January 09 10:50 GMT (UK) »

Well, here is the marriage of Joseph and Isabella:

Joseph Rowley married Q3. 1891 Wolverhampton  Vol.6b.  Pg. 751
Isabella Timmins on the same page.


So need to look for them separately 1861 - 1891.  Joseph first:

1861
RG9  P.  1986  Fol. 15  Pg. 26


May Pole, Wombourn, Staffs

ROWLEY
John  Head  M  45  Labourer  B.  Salop, Cloorly
Mary Ann Wife  M  43  B.  Staffs. Botham
John  Son  13
William  Son  9
Hannah  Dau  7
Joseph  son  4
Jane  Dau  1

all children born Wombourn.
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott


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Re: Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 January 09 11:02 GMT (UK) »

1871
RG10  P. 2929  Fol. 15  Pg. 23


May Pole, Wombourn, Staffs.

ROWLEY
John  Head  M  54  Labourer in colliery  B.  Staffs. Enville
Mary Ann Wife  M  52 
William  Son  19  Labourer
Joseph  Son  14  Farm Servant
Jane  Dau  11      Scholar
George  Son  9       ~
Mary  Dau  6           ~

all except father born Wombourn

So it looks as if the George living next door with his family in 1901 was indeed Joseph's brother   :)
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 January 09 11:11 GMT (UK) »

1881
RG11.  P. 2791  Fol. 13  Pg. 20


Center Village, Wombourn

ROWLEY
John  Head  M  66 Coalmine labourer  B.  Staffs. Enville
Mary A  Wife  M  61
Joseph  Son  Un  24  General labourer
Jane  Dau  Un  21
George  Son  Un  19  General labourer
Mary  Dau  16

all except John born Wombourn
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 January 09 11:25 GMT (UK) »
thanks mum44. i dont know why i didnt ask for help earlier.
its hard to get the information i need when i have to travel to melbourne to get the information. and when i do get there i have so much i want to search for that the day just doesnt fit it all in.

so all your help has been and will continue to be much appreciated.

cheers from oz
liz
EUSTACE - Wantage, Berkshire
BURGESS - Maresfield, Sussex
STRAW - Ilkeston, Derbyshire
CROSS - Liverpool, Lancashire
STEWART - Ayr, Scot.
McNAUGHTON - Scot.
ROWLEY, HICKMAN, TIMMINS - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
DRADDY - Co. Cork, Ireland
WALL - Co. Clare, Ireland
JANE - Mylor, Helston, Falmouth, Cornwall,
JARMAN - Ramsgate, Kent
STEPHENSON/BROWN -  NZ &West. Aust.
GOODWIN - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, UK
HAWKINS - ?


all these families came to Australia for one reason or another.

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Re: Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 January 09 11:50 GMT (UK) »


Liz -  well, I can't find Joseph in 1891 at the moment  :-\   

His mother was a 71 year old widow, living alone in Wombourn;  I found brother George with wife and 4 children, and brother William with wife and 6 children - but of Joseph there is no obvious sign   :(    I'll keep looking   ;)

There are two possible death regs. for John:  one in 1882 born  1816 and another in 1884 born 1816  -  and John says he was born  1815   :-\
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Joseph ROWLEY, Wolverhampton
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 January 09 12:23 GMT (UK) »

Liz  -  Joseph had 4 other siblings   :D

I looked in 1851

1851
HO107. P. 2017 Fol. 367 Pg. 7


Lower End, Wombourn

ROWLEY
John  Head  M  36  Coal mine labourer  B.  Shropshire Claverley
Mary Ann Wife  M  32                        B.  Staffs. Bilston
Emma  Dau  12
Harriett  Dau  10
Sarah  Dau  8
Eleanor  Dau  5
John  Son  3

all children born Wombourn.

In 1841 John and Mary Ann are living in Wombourn with Emma aged 2 and Harriett aged 7 months.

Their marriage does not appear on civil registration - but I found this :

Marriage :  19 Feb 1837 at Wombourn John Rowley and Mary Ann Worton.
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott