JOHN DOUGLASS

[trchilds]

Hi,

I am stuck and need some assistance, you have helped me so much in the past and I truly appreciate it. I have found out my Gr-Gr Grandfather John Douglass married Rachel Beattie on February 7, 1860 in Belfast. They had the following living children -

Leah born Dec 20 1862 in Paisley
John born Mar 23 1865 in Paisley
Sarah born Jan 20 1868 in Belfast
Henry born Sept 16 1872 in Belfast

I have managed to trace Rachel Beattie's line back. I would love to get information on John Douglass, father of these children, and trace some of his line. I don't know when or where he was born, died or the dates.

Any help is greatly appreciated. I put this request in the Paisley section as Rachel Beattie and her line were born and are buried in the Westerkirk part of Scotland.

Thanks.

Tom

[wozzle]

not sure but possibly him
1861
william john douglas age 27. b. ireland. occ. cotton mill worker. head.
rachel douglas age 19. b. ireland. wife.
margaret douglas age 1mnth. b. paisley. daughter.
living at; 29,new sneddon street,paisley middle church,paisley,renfrewshire
reg.dist. paisley middle church.

[MonicaL]

Tom

There are a couple of other children showing for this couple on IGI, not sure if you have them:

James - 8 January 1875 - Antrim
Rachel - 31 July 1879 - Belfast, Antrim

Monica

[trchilds]

Hi Monica.

I was unaware of those two children. Many thanks for the information. This has been an especially difficult quest to track William John Douglass SR. This helps me build a profile to continue the quest.

Thanks again!

Tom

[MonicaL]

Hi Tom

Wozzle's possible 1861 looks promising, although I am not seeing the birth of daughter Margaret on SP easily. Could be that she was born in Ireland and perhaps birth place wrongly recorded 

I see from the Antrim board that John and Rachel's marriage entry has him recorded as William John which adds to the possibility of that 1861 entry in Paisley, also the occupation would fit.

There is a submitted entry on IGI for births. It's seems too early, but I thought the mother's name was interesting:

WM DOUGLASS  Christening: 10 NOV 1822 at St Annes Parish, Belfast, Antrim
Parents: JAMES DOUGLASS and LEAH SPENCE

You say you have managed to trace Rachel back to her family. What were her parents's names - just trying to see whether there is anything to be seen (guessed at this stage!) from the names they used for their children.

Monica

[trchilds]

Hi Monica,

thanks for your reply. There is no family names in the Rachel Beattie line which corresponds to the other side. The to cannot find Margaret Douglass born in Paisley on the 1861 date although it is listed in IGI. The difficulty is it seems they went back and forth from Belfast to Paisley during these years.

The notation of Wm Douglass and Leah Spence is interesting. My family from this time period was Protestant and St Annes Parish sounds more Roman Catholic. Also, as you said, the dates may be too early.

Tom

[trchilds]

Hi Monica,

Just went onto SP again and found Margaret Douglass and it is the correct one. I changed the parameters to -

DOUGLAS, MARG and the birthyear of 1861

The parents and their marriage date match up but does not provide anymore info.

Tom

[trchilds]

not sure but possibly him
1861
william john douglas age 27. b. ireland. occ. cotton mill worker. head.
rachel douglas age 19. b. ireland. wife.
margaret douglas age 1mnth. b. paisley. daughter.
living at; 29,new sneddon street,paisley middle church,paisley,renfrewshire
reg.dist. paisley middle church.

Hi Wozzle,

This has some possibilities and thank you for the information. My challenge has been that they married in Belfast, moved to Paisley, had children, and then moved  back to Belfast and had more children. I

Tom

[MonicaL]

Hi Tom

Again not sure if you have seen this. It would seem that someone else has been researching the line of William John and Rachel. There is a submitted entry on IGI at www.familysearch.org for their marriage. I know you have their marriage date and place from various sources, but also included in this entry is the name of Rachel's father which shows as John. Also is an age for Rachel at the time of her marriage which shows as 16, slightly younger than the age she gave for the census in Paisley the following year.

Monica