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william robert child/ maria shipp
« on: Sunday 04 January 09 05:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I have my great grandfather's birth certificate. It shows the registration district of Greenwich in the sub-district of St Paul Deptford. His name was Walter Thomas Child, born 16 February 1885 at 280 Lower Road.

His parents were William Robert Child and his mother was Maria Child (nee Shipp). I am looking for information on them and ideally would like to find out their , marriage date and their respective birth and death dates.

Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.

Tom
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Re: william robert child/ maria shipp
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 15:31 GMT (UK) »
This looks like the marriage (from Freebmd)

William Robert Child - Dec 1869 Qtr - Depwade 4b 632. Maria Shipp is at the same ref:

Would need assistance from census sleuths to confirm whether this is correct of course.

Kanskar
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Re: william robert child/ maria shipp
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 16:07 GMT (UK) »
The marriage reg posted by Kanskae seems to be the correct one- although by census 1871 they had a 7 yr old child - possibly from a previous marriage or poss an illegit child of maria's

I have them on census 1871-1901 -I think it is going to be complicated following this family

William changes p.o.b. from Norfolk to Suffolk back to Norfolk
maria is consistent with Norfolk
They were married in Norfolk
The children seem to go by their middle name on some census -their forename on others!!!

I will post the census details and then look up the birth regs of children - it seems your Walter  Thomas used the name Thomas in 1891

When I have posted the census I will then see if I can find william and Maria pre marriage

Sit tight -its going to be a bumpy ride!!!!

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: william robert child/ maria shipp
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 16:12 GMT (UK) »
1871
Lee Terrace
4 lower Rd
Deptford St Pauls
William Child Head M 25 labourer at Tanyard Norwich Norfolk
Maria wife 25 Statston Norfolk
Frederick son 7 Peckham Surrey
William R 10mth Deptford Kent
RG10 746 15 23

Ill now look up Frederick and William's birth

I think it will be easier to understand if I post in stages

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: william robert child/ maria shipp
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 16:42 GMT (UK) »
possibilities for frederick are
Birth freeBMD
Frederick William Child  Dec qtr 1864 Mutford 4a 677
(if he was William's child)
Frederick H J Shipp Mar qtr 1866 newington Surrey 1a 205 (if he was Marias pre marriage)
Problem is in 1881 there is a child James F age16 b Norfolk - whether this is Frederick from 1871 I do not know???

Birth reg FreeBMD
William Robert Child Sept qtr 1870 greenwich 1d 695

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: william robert child/ maria shipp
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 16:47 GMT (UK) »
1881- name entered as Childs!
9 Robinsons Place
Rotherhithe Surrey
William R Childs head M 36 mason's lab Suffolk
Maria wife 36 Norfolk
James F son 16 brewers assistant Norfolk
William son 11 Deptford Kent
Charles son 7 Rotherhithe Surrey
Ada daughter 5 Rotherhithe
Gerge son 3 rotherhith
Harriet daughter 1 Rotherhithe
Birtha daughter 4 mths Rotherhithe
RG11 578 4 1

now for the birth reg's of extra children

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: william robert child/ maria shipp
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Births FreeBMD
Charles Edward Childs Dec qtr 1873 St Olave 1d 317
Ada Alice Child mar qtr 1876 St Olave 1d 344
George Arthr Child Dec qtr 1877 St Olave 1d 338
Harriet Jane Child Dec qtr 1879 St Olave 1d 329
Bertha Florence mar qtr 1881 St Olave 1d 317

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: william robert child/ maria shipp
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 17:34 GMT (UK) »
1891
11 Robinon Terrace St Pal Deptford
William Child head m 45 gen lab Ipswich Suffolk
maria wife 45 Norwich Norfolk
Charles son 17 shop assistant Rotherhithe Surrey
George son 14 Errand boy Ritherhithe
Florence daughter 11 Rotherhithe (Birtha in 1881)
Ellen daughter 9 Rotherhithe
Thomas son 7 Deptford kent (Walter T in 1901)
Rose daughter 5 Deptford Kent
mary Ann daughter Deptford kent
RG12 498 54 24

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: william robert child/ maria shipp
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 17:36 GMT (UK) »
FreeBMD Births
Ellen maria Child Dec qtr 1882 St Olave 1d 311
Walter Thomas Child mar qtr 1885 Greenwich 1d 1093
Rose Emma R Child Mar qtr 1887 Greenwich 1d 1023
mary Ann Child dec qtr 1888 Greenwiick 1d 1019

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk