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Re: Old map of Sutton, St Helens?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 January 09 17:31 GMT (UK) »
This brought back memories!  I used to go to Robins Lane School,  lived on Marshalls Cross Road and went to Peasley Cross Congs.   Happy days.
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Re: Old map of Sutton, St Helens?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 January 09 17:42 GMT (UK) »
I am at the moment writing a history of this town and the townships.

I have been asked for a long time to start on one but have been put off by the  poor versions that have been done by people such as one that spent 30 minutes in the town and then took off with someone elses work not understanding the nature of the area and came out with something which made no sense at all.

Another one  had quite memorable buildings in the town in totally the wrong areas.

Don't want to write one up where people can go through it and say "that's wrong".


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Re: Old map of Sutton, St Helens?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 05 January 09 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dancing Master,

Will your history be covering any of the potteries in that area eg Ravenhead, Thatto Heath etc etc?

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Re: Old map of Sutton, St Helens?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 January 09 19:35 GMT (UK) »
TheOld Teapot Pottery is a memory from childhood that was at Ravenhead area.

Doulton had another pottery in Boundary Road. Also one in Gerrards Bridge (one of the slum areas) but inhabited by some hardworking people.   My grandparents had a shop down there, no point in have such a place in an area without the population to frequent it. had it near to the Glass works. plenty of people passing at least twice a day.

My book will cover the town consisting of the four townships, plus photographs, "stories"   "people"  old pubs, shops, and events, but not genealogy as such ie.  specific families.  people need to do that themselves.

I get many many phone calls from people I know from yesteryear,  asking me to put them out of their misery in that they cannot remember where something was, or when something happened.

Its interesting as well and good to help with "facts".

There were more glass manufacturers than potteries.  There was a pottery in Prescot  adjacent to St Helens.

From  being a very young child I was taken on walks, to different areas of the town and villages by my mother and as we walked she told me the history of the houses, and things we could see.   She also took me to visit family regularly and I knew all my cousins and second cousins very well, so that has been an enormous help.

We also wrote it down what we had seen on our walks as my grandmama who lived with us could not stand "idle hands" she said  "idlle hands get into mischief"  so I wrote, I sewed, knitted, crocheted, embroidered, took part in singing festivals, girl guides, went to Dancing Class  and appeared on stage.

We couldn't just sit and listen to the radio we had to have a project on the go as well.  Some of the things were given to people who had very little, who were customers of Grandmother.

As a result we made our presents for family an schoolfriends, and things for ourselves, I still have table cloths I embroidered when I was 13 years old.   which I know treasure very much.




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Re: Old map of Sutton, St Helens?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 January 09 09:29 GMT (UK) »
http://www.sthelenschat.co.uk/forum/

This is another good site,  plus we have the

http://www.sthelenstownshipsfhs.org.uk/

As someone who lives in St Helens and has done all my life  plus family been here since 1690.  I do think I know a little about the place.

My grandmother's name was marion atherton lyon; her father was elias lyon, director of peasley glass works. I have some old metal photographs in poor condition of people who are unidentified.
I am starting to investigate, and would appreciate any pointers as to images or information re; peasley glass works. [ "A Mersey Town in the Industrial Revolution" gives info on p 450 approx] 

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Re: Old map of Sutton, St Helens?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 January 09 03:54 GMT (UK) »
From the 1881 census that my GGG-f was the Licenced Victualler of a public house at 44 Elephane Lane, Thatto Heath, St. Helens.  My GGG-M was widowed but still there in 1891.   I'd love to find out what the name of the pub was.   Anyone any ideas?   It's lovely reading all the posts about St. Helens & Sutton -- I was born in Sutton, raised in Eccleston but have lived in Canada for the past 30 years.

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Re: Old map of Sutton, St Helens?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 26 January 09 03:54 GMT (UK) »
opps... not Elephane Lane...  Elephant Lane!

Sorry
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Re: Old map of Sutton, St Helens?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 01 February 09 09:23 GMT (UK) »
http://www.sthelenschat.co.uk/forum/

This is another good site,  plus we have the

http://www.sthelenstownshipsfhs.org.uk/

As someone who lives in St Helens and has done all my life  plus family been here since 1690.  I do think I know a little about the place.

My grandmother's name was marion atherton lyon; her father was elias lyon, director of peasley glass works. I have some old metal photographs in poor condition of people who are unidentified.
I am starting to investigate, and would appreciate any pointers as to images or information re; peasley glass works. [ "A Mersey Town in the Industrial Revolution" gives info on p 450 approx] 


Elias and Son, glass manufactures, Ravenhead Bottle works,
from  Slaters directory St Helens Lancashire.

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Eilas/Peasley Glass works
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 01 February 09 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Sorry missed out:  SLATERS DIRECTORY 1855.

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