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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #117 on: Saturday 24 January 09 12:11 GMT (UK) »
What an interesting post, thank Dennis for giving us more background to the mystery!  Hard to think of a child dying of starvation....

the other scenario "malabsorbtion of food" could that be something like a celiac, or allergy's to food etc?  She died in 1883, when "father" still alive. 

But yes, Mary must have been a strong woman!  What a hard and difficult life...:)
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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #118 on: Saturday 24 January 09 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

I'm on another trail- this time Daisy White [or later Bennett]; Kate Eade's younger half-sister.
Remember in 1891 living at Bath Road, Heston, Hounslow (RG12; Piece: 1025; Folio 14; Page 26;Ed16; SN178)
Mary White Head Marr 36 b. Petworth; Archie Eade son 10; Rose Eade dau 6; Catherine Eade dau 5; Daisy White dau 3 (all b. Ash, Surrey); Ada White dau 1 b. Hounslow; William Bennett Lodger single 76 [sic] labourer b. Sunbury

When Kate Eade married Arthur Henry Morris on 13 Dec 1913 the witnesses were Daisy & W Allen.
Someone speculated that this Daisy was probably Kate's half sister Daisy White (or Bennett).  This seemed a reasonable "working proposition" at the time.

Indeed there is a marriage in the district where Daisy was born and the family once lived which fits:  Marriages Dec 1909 ALLEN Walter Ernest & BENNETT Daisy Louisa Farnham 2a 220. 
However, this Daisy Louisa BENNETT appears to be the one who was born with this exact name in Mar 1885 Farnham 2a 105. Not one who was born about 1888.

So....This can't be "our" Daisy for 2 reasons ; 1. She'd be older than her half sister Kate and 2.  Kate was born on 6 Jun 1885 - so not biologically possible, even for a mother as resilient as Mary HAWKINS!

The problem is I cannot find a Daisy (Louisa) BENNETT b. 1885 on 1891 or 1901 that fits.

I can't find any other suitable Daisy Bennett (or White) marriage to a W Allen. Perhaps the witnesses are indeed the couple above and who got married in Farnham (around Ash, Surrey) and were family friends; making the name Daisy Louisa Bennett a coincidence?

What do others think? 
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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #119 on: Saturday 24 January 09 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dennis,

I agree with you, that Walter and Daisy Allen are family friends, as there is the birth registration in Farnham for Daisy White in the June qtr 1888, no middle name of Louisa but the right time period.  Still it would be nice to find the Daisy Louisa born 1885 to eliminate her!!

Have being looking for a Daisy on the 1911 census  with a birth place of Ash, but to no avail as yet!

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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #120 on: Saturday 24 January 09 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Indeed there is a marriage in the district where Daisy was born and the family once lived which fits:  Marriages Dec 1909 ALLEN Walter Ernest & BENNETT Daisy Louisa Farnham 2a 220. 
However, this Daisy Louisa BENNETT appears to be the one who was born with this exact name in Mar 1885 Farnham 2a 105. Not one who was born about 1888.

...

The problem is I cannot find a Daisy (Louisa) BENNETT b. 1885 on 1891 or 1901 that fits.

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Hi Dennis,

Good thinking!

I agree with you too i.e. that it is just a coincidence.  It just shows that one can't be too careful!

In 1891, Daisy L BENNETT aged 6 is with parents Fred. (a Bootmaker) & Louisa BENNETT and siblings in Aldershot, Hampshire born Aldershot (Aldershot was in the Farnham registration district).  And still in Aldershot in 1901 - aged 15 with widowed mother and siblings.

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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #121 on: Saturday 24 January 09 18:01 GMT (UK) »
I think Daisy Louisa can definitely be ruled out as the witness, as she married George Carr, not Walter Ernest Allen.

Have found Daisy Louisa Carr, birthplace Aldershot, born 1886, she is with George in the district of Farnham, on the 1911 census.

Back to the drawing board for the witnesses!

Kath
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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #122 on: Saturday 24 January 09 23:59 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought, if Daisy was registered at birth as Daisy WHITE, wouldn't she have to get married under that name as well?
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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #123 on: Sunday 25 January 09 03:07 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought, if Daisy was registered at birth as Daisy WHITE, wouldn't she have to get married under that name as well?

This family is never consistent with the surnames it uses.  Isn't that what makes it so interesting?

  • Her younger sister Ada White married as Ada Bennett
  • Indeed her mother Mary Hawkins who had married James ROE, missed out on marrying Caesar EADE, but married Thomas WHITE as Mary Eade and then married William Bennett also as Mary Eade!!!
  • Her first son Charles Hawkins died as Charles Eade.
  • One son Horace ROE is on the census as Horace Hawkins at one point.
  • The daughter Alice ROE died as Alice Eade (and the cert. wrongly gives Caesar Eade as the father).
  • Later Millie Barbara Eade married as Millie Barbara Morris.

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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #124 on: Sunday 25 January 09 23:05 GMT (UK) »
there is the birth registration in Farnham for Daisy White in the June qtr 1888
Thanks for finding that Kath- I'll purchase this Cert.
Dennis

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Re: Kate Eade - continued
« Reply #125 on: Thursday 02 April 09 12:57 BST (UK) »
Dear Jaymee

I have been looking for my Aunt Barbara who is your Gran.  I did try to contact you through Genes, but no luck so far.  My Mum Lucy Pizzey was Aunt Barbara's sister in law.  After Aunt Barbara and Steven, Micheal Rodney and Joan emigrated we lost touch, which I would really like to amend.  I have certs but not all only what I know about and I might be able to answer some of your question's "not a lot" and you can answer mine.  Kate Eade was a a relative of to Uncle Ernest.  Aunt Barbara and Uncle Ernest divorced, I have their marriage cert and his death, and Kate Eades marriage, and the children of Mary, all as far as I know. Not to much more on Aunt Barbara as I said we lost touch. Can you please get in touch with me.

Brenda