Middle name Braithwaite Completed

[muttly]

Thank you. The first family are the right age. More likely than the older one. I will mark it with a ? until I can be sure. It's a pity that Mary Ann was out of the house by then.   Muttly

[sillgen]

By 1851 there is a couple in Nether Stavely at Hill Cottage HO107 2441 245 1
James Philipson 59 Proprietor of Land  b Strickland Kettle
Mary 55 b Hugill

It is quite a rise in their fortunes but the ages match the first couple.  Wonder if he left a will?
Andrea

[muttly]

I doubt that these were connected. None of my ancestors were anything other than "workers'!!! but it would be nice to think that someone could rise in their "station'  Is the 5 years different in their ages between the two census's normal? [James going from 45-59]Is it possible to find a will? Would he have had to pay taxes? Muttly

[sillgen]

In 1841 ages were rounded down so 24 would go to 20 and 45 could mean up to 49 - that would work quite well.
You could look for deaths on FreeBMD and see if any look possible.  Post 1858 wills are all held at the Central Probate office in London.  Before that they were dealt with at local church courts so the local record office will have an index.
Andrea

[muttly]

Thank you Andrea. I appreciate your help. muttly

[merryhow]

Hi, James aged 65 in the 1841 census has someone named Robinson living with him, this makes me think that he is the James who married Mary Robinson in Kendal in 1805.

[woodthorpegirl]

The family of Mary Ann Philipson have been researched very thoroughly by another descendant of the family living in New Zealand.  This branch of the Philipsons were farmers who became bobbin manufacturers at Staveley. I am interested in another branch of the Philipsons, and together we think we can trace Mary Ann's family back to the the seventeenth century.

Mary Ann's parents were James Philipson and Mary Braithwaite. James's parents were William Philipson b.1764 and Ann Kelty b.1770, who were married in 1790. William was the son of Thomas Philipson b. 1738 and Isabel of Whinfell, Grayrigg.  Thomas was the son of William and Elizabeth Philipson, farmers of Longsleddale. They also lived for a short while at Roosecote cottages in the parish of Dalton, which was then in Lancashire.

William is also mentioned in a surviving quitclaim of 1724 which may support the idea that he was the son of Thomas Philipson and Jennet Sawrey. Thomas died in 1711 at Stricklandkettle. He may also be the brother of John Philipson of Burneside who was the progenitor of an enormous family of Philipsons, whose descendants can be found on many family history forums!

[muttly]

Thank you  Woodthorpegirl for this awesome information. It was good of you to share it. I really appreciate it.
It's always exciting to find more information about our "roots". Muttly

[frian]

Hello

I have a Prayer Book which once belonged to your ancestors - James Philipson of Ings (Hugill) is the earliest and he put several notes in it.  There are notes made by other Philipsons, including Mary Ann.  It was given to me by James Philipson Thornton of Carnforth many years ago.  Please get in touch with me if you would like to have it.
frian