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RODEN , PEARSE or BERRY
« on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:04 GMT (UK) »
 :D Please could someone look up my ancestor on the 1841 census his name was James Roden and the only information I have from him is that in 1874 on his sons marriage certificate he was an ostler and living in Alphington Street Plymouth I know it is a long shot but any help much appreciated.

MODERATOR COMMENT: Information provided in what has bacome reply 3 as I have now merged two threads

I have hit a blank wall with some of my ancestors and need some help .
The blanks are my Gr, Gr grandparents Jessie Pearse born 1855 in Stoke Dameral to parents Robert and Ann Pearse and Archibald Roden birth unknown but he was a soldier in 1875 on there marriage certificate and his father was James Roden living in Alphington Street occupation Ostler.

Jessie had a baby in 1874 called Archibald while she lived in Rackfield Exeter before she married. His birth certificate says father unknown but she married Archibald I assume his real father 8 months after the birth which is a mystery in itself.
The baby is on all census from 1881 - 1901 as living with his grandparents Robert and Ann where his names appear sometimes as Pearse and sometimes Roden.
The baby grew up to have his own children living in Cecil street he had a son called Archibald Roden so I am pretty sure his real father was Archibald Roden who Jessie married.

I have done allot of of looking for Jessie and Archibald for the last few years and I cannot find anything so any info or advice would be very helpful.

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Re: RODEN , PEARSE or BERRY
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi A.Thompson

What was the son's name,place of birth and age. Would help to back track for his father then ;)

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Re: RODEN , PEARSE or BERRY
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi

You posted a query about this a couple of years ago
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,8390.msg26170.html#msg26170

Archibald Roden a soldier who married Jessie Pearse in St Thomas 1876 and living in Alphington Street also on marriage certificate his father James Roden an ostler also from Devon

did you follow up the information given then?

on 1871 census
Archibald Rodan age 21 aborn scotland a drapers assistant living in Pennington Lancashire
James Rodan age 56 born scotland  a corn dealer living in Hereford herefordshire he is a boarder with others working with horses.



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Re: RODEN , PEARSE or BERRY
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:22 GMT (UK) »
I have hit a blank wall with some of my ancestors and need some help .
The blanks are my Gr, Gr grandparents Jessie Pearse born 1855 in Stoke Dameral to parents Robert and Ann Pearse and Archibald Roden birth unknown but he was a soldier in 1875 on there marriage certificate and his father was James Roden living in Alphington Street occupation Ostler.

Jessie had a baby in 1874 called Archibald while she lived in Rackfield Exeter before she married. His birth certificate says father unknown but she married Archibald I assume his real father 8 months after the birth which is a mystery in itself.
The baby is on all census from 1881 - 1901 as living with his grandparents Robert and Ann where his names appear sometimes as Pearse and sometimes Roden.
The baby grew up to have his own children living in Cecil street he had a son called Archibald Roden so I am pretty sure his real father was Archibald Roden who Jessie married.

I have done allot of of looking for Jessie and Archibald for the last few years and I cannot find anything so any info or advice would be very helpful.


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Re: RODEN , PEARSE or BERRY
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if you already have this, but this looks like Jessie with her family in 1871, also in Alphington Street:

1871 census RG10/2055 Folio 21 Page 34
Alphington St, St. Thomas Plymouth, Devon
PEARSE
Robert  head m 53 Mason  Bampton
Ann       wife  m 38           Mary Tavy
Ellen      dau      21           Tavistock
Sarah       "        19              "
Rebecca    "       18           Camborne near Tavistock
Jessie       "        14           Stoke  Plymouth
Emma Jane "      12            Marie Town  Plymouth
Mary            "      9                     "
Elizabeth      "      7                     "
Edith            "      4           Ford near Plymouth
William Robert  son 2         St Thomas Devon Exeter


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Re: RODEN , PEARSE or BERRY
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:38 GMT (UK) »
Yes I looked into that but I did'nt think that was my ancestors James was an Ostler and Archibald his son was a soldier in 1875 they lived in .Archibald Roden James's son married Jessie Pearse 22 Feb 1875 this is the info on the marriage certificate.
Archibald Roden 26 / bachelor/ soldier /Alphington street / James Roden /ostler.
Jessie Pearse 19 /spinster / Alphington street /Robert Pearse / stone mason.
In the parish of St Thomas
Witnesses were W Blair and Polly Pearse
This is everything .Thanks

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Re: RODEN , PEARSE or BERRY
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:41 GMT (UK) »
I do have that census info but I have just clicked that on reading it I think that Jessie and Archibald were living in Alphington Street together as it says on there marriage certificate .

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Well it helps to have all the information together, we didn't know Archibald and Jessie's ages before,  glad I found the right Jessie

Now to look for Archibald and hopefully this time we can find the right one, although if he was a soldier he may have been away at census time.

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Re: RODEN , PEARSE or BERRY
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks