Looking For Joseph Owram in USA - Again

[woolley]

Looks like you've got the family nailed on the IGI Mab, great job

Shelley - Re David Murray, looks like it ties in with the othe info on David born 1906-07

[forthefamily]

On the California death index:

Simon David Murray
Social Security # 0
Sex - male
Birth Date - 15 Jan 1872
Birth Place - Canada
Death Date - 8 Sep 1954
Death Place - Napa
Mother's Maiden Name - Sellers
Father - Murray

I found an S D Murray in the 1911 census in Comox-Atlin British Columbia.....born Jan 1872 Nova Scotia....single.......father Scottish mother Canadian. Unfortunately the copy is so poor I can't get more that that from it. 

mab

[woolley]

The Family seem to have spread about, makes you wonder where you could have been if it was your direct ancestor that had gone and not the other brother 

[shellyesq]

Whoops, I accidentally modified my previous post, when I meant to quote it.   

I meant to post this.  I'll have to go back and fix the other.

From The Lincoln County Leader - "New arrivals: H R Sturdevant and Mrs J P Owram and families, May 16 1895"

Keeping in line with this -

http://users.wi.net/~census/lesson18.html

Oram, Jenne Sturdevant (1825-1907) d/o Sam Sturdevant

Sturdevant, Hamilton R (?-?); Sturdevant, Ira Claire Starr (1854-1925); Sturdevant, Marion Sanford (?-?) pvt WWI

Maybe there is a Starr relative, but not her father?

[forthefamily]

I agree with you that the Starrs are related......


I was looking for Joseph in the census records for 1851 and 1861 because he has been found in 1841 and 1871.

I found his mum in 1851 and 1861 but no Joseph so I wonder when he left Britain 

mab

[woolley]

It would be too much of a coincidence for the Starrs to be a differant family, re Joseph I've spent many an hour searching the 51 an 61 census returns but to no avail

ps the local papers for that period were always advertising emigrant ships to various places

[forthefamily]

Coincidentally I found a Mr. Owran age 21 occupation Tailor departing Liverpool and arriving in Philadelphia on 9 Sep 1853 aboard the ship City of Manchester.

But....there is one snag.

Under the heading "What country belonging to?" they have put U.S.A.
Under the heading "What country intention to become inhabitants?" it says U.S.A.


mab

[woolley]

The age and occupation fit, puzzling re country from though, could be an honest mistake in his eagerness to get aboard


1880 census

 Lester M. STARR   M   Male      26   NY   Ferry Man         ( Accountant 1910 ?)
 Hattie A. STARR   M   Female   17   PA   Keeping House 

Mulberry, Clay, Kansas

[forthefamily]

I found him and Hattie and their daughter Vera in the 1885 Kansas census and he's a farmer.....same place.

mab