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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #27 on: Friday 02 January 09 19:48 GMT (UK) »
There were a few David Murrays on there - what do we know about him that might narrow it down?

On footnote.com, there is a Joseph Owram who was naturalized in the Common Pleas Court in New York, NY in 1866.  I can't see much info without a subscription and I'm not sure how much can be seen with it, but any chance he's yours?

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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #28 on: Friday 02 January 09 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Shelly

The father was with them age 72 in 1910 but wasn't in the 1920 census with them. But that doesn't really mean anything does it....he could be with one of his other children  ???


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I found on IGI an extracted birth record for Sarah Murray with David as father -

20 MAR 1866       Toney River, Pictou, Nova Scotia
Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #29 on: Friday 02 January 09 20:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi shellyesq

Joseph Owram Born 1832, was in 1841 England Census but then vanished for 30 years, so it looks like he emigrated to the States as a young man, 1866 would make him 34, Cannot find any trace of him in england, how long would he have to there before he cold be naturalized ?

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Suffolk - Reynolds,Bishop,Peck,Burrows,Smith,Chittock,Gardner,Adams
Derbyshire - Woolley,Newton,Ratcliffe,Brown,Moore,Wright,Rowland,Leech,Leach
Norfolk - Chandler,Dixon, Moore, Bone, Payne
Notts - Ward,Walters,Browne,Norman,Lee
Yorks - Robinson,Owram, Beck, Micklethwaite
Scotland - McDowall
Ireland - Hassett

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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #30 on: Friday 02 January 09 20:03 GMT (UK) »
And Hugh's birth

18 JUN 1867    Toney River, Pictou, Nova Scotia

And I found a marriage -

David Murray to Lydia Murray (?).....could she be a Murray as well  ???

26 JUL 1864      River John, Pictou, Nova Scotia - extracted record.

mab
Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #31 on: Friday 02 January 09 20:07 GMT (UK) »
The IGI looks to be right Mab, there are other Murrays living in Pictou, Nova Scotia so could well be correct about the marraige

Allan
Suffolk - Reynolds,Bishop,Peck,Burrows,Smith,Chittock,Gardner,Adams
Derbyshire - Woolley,Newton,Ratcliffe,Brown,Moore,Wright,Rowland,Leech,Leach
Norfolk - Chandler,Dixon, Moore, Bone, Payne
Notts - Ward,Walters,Browne,Norman,Lee
Yorks - Robinson,Owram, Beck, Micklethwaite
Scotland - McDowall
Ireland - Hassett

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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #32 on: Friday 02 January 09 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Adaline Murray birth - not extracted though

11 JUL 1870       Toney River, Pictou, Nova Scotia

Father David Murray Mother Lydia Silers

Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #33 on: Friday 02 January 09 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Nice one Mab, didn't see that one

Allan
Suffolk - Reynolds,Bishop,Peck,Burrows,Smith,Chittock,Gardner,Adams
Derbyshire - Woolley,Newton,Ratcliffe,Brown,Moore,Wright,Rowland,Leech,Leach
Norfolk - Chandler,Dixon, Moore, Bone, Payne
Notts - Ward,Walters,Browne,Norman,Lee
Yorks - Robinson,Owram, Beck, Micklethwaite
Scotland - McDowall
Ireland - Hassett

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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #34 on: Friday 02 January 09 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Lavinia Emma Murray birth - 29 Feb 1876 Pictou Nova Scotia

Simon David Murray birth - 15 JAN 1872  Toney River, Pictou, Nova Scotia  Father - David Murray Mother - Lydia Ann Sillers - extracted record

mab
Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: Looking For Joseph Owram in USA
« Reply #35 on: Friday 02 January 09 20:27 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if there was any specific requirement about how long they would have to be in the US to be naturalized. 

The earliest David Murray on the Oregon death index died in 1956, so looks like that would be too late to be your guy.

Re. the other David Murray, with a slightly different birth date -
Social Security Death Index
David Murray
Last Residence - Toledo, Lincoln, Oregon
Born 27 Jun. 1906
Died Jul. 1982
SSN issued in Oregon before 1951
 
 
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